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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    What's really interesting about the Griffey contract is that the Reds have to pay him $16.5M in 2024. Other than that, they owe him $2-3M every year until then.

    Arroyo is owed $1.5M every year through 2021.

    Part of Rolen's 2010 salary was deferred, and they're making the last payment on that this year (~$1.7M).

    Aroldis Chapman gets yearly bonuses that are paid out of the scouting and player development budget as opposed to the player payroll budget.
    I wonder how many other teams regularly deal in deferments, particularly deals that extend beyond when the player has left the building. Maybe I've not paid close attention, but it doesn't seem all that common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    Thanks for posting that; very good read.
    I thought so too.

    I thought the part about Madson pitching 60 2/3 innings in 62 games and entering the game with a 1 run lead or tied game just 22 times was pretty interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    I wonder how many other teams regularly deal in deferments, particularly deals that extend beyond when the player has left the building. Maybe I've not paid close attention, but it doesn't seem all that common.
    http://clutch.mtv.com/2011/05/18/bob...uching-a-ball/

    Here's a few noteworthies, two of our liabilities in there.

    I also see where the Dodgers owe Manny $8.3 last year and this year. The Tigers had $11M deferred last year on about 4 different players, only one still playing for them. It looks like its baseball's not so secret dirty little secret. Quite a bit of information out there.
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    CINCINNATI -- A formalized contract between the Reds and prospective new closer Ryan Madson might take several days to complete.

    A source told MLB.com on Wednesday that Madson will get a one-year guaranteed contract that pays him $6 million in 2012 with an $11 million option for 2013 that carries a $2.5 million buyout. Some of the money will be spread out over four years.

    One of the issues holding up a deal being formalized is that Madson is on vacation and has yet to be scheduled for a physical. Reds general manager Walt Jocketty is currently attending the owners meetings in Phoenix and could not be reached for comment.
    Could that report be wrong? It's showing 1 year 8.5 million for 2012 on both Cot's and Baseball Reference, or are they just quick off the mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmarilloRed View Post
    Could that report be wrong? It's showing 1 year 8.5 million for 2012 on both Cot's and Baseball Reference, or are they just quick off the mark.
    Everything is speculation right now. The contract isn't finalized because he still hasn't even taken the physical (but Fayl's reporting that he's doing that later this week). But everything I've read/heard is that it's basically 1 year for 8.5 million. Someone said it was 6 with a 2.5 million buyout, but it's still 1 year at 8.5 guaranteed.

    Reliever Ryan Madson will be in later this week for a physical, a Reds team source confirmed today.

    The Reds and Madson have agreed to a one-year, $8.5 million deal pending the physical. The 31-year-old Madson last year saved 32 games for Philadelphia, with a 2.37 ERA.
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...SEQ_story.html

    CINCINNATI — Free-agent closer Ryan Madson and the Cincinnati Reds have finalized their $8.5 million, one-year contract.

    The deal, agreed to Jan. 11 and announced Friday, calls for a $6 million salary this year, of which $2 million is deferred until Nov. 1 and $2 million until Nov. 1, 2013. The agreement includes a $11 million mutual option for 2013 with a $2.5 million buyout.
    So Madson is only making $2 million during the season
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    that's a... creative distribution of salary. affects only two fiscal years, and minimally affects this year's budget. damn clever.
    Suck it up cupcake.

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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    That has to be the worst deal Boras ever negotiated for a client. The 2 things I take from that:

    1. The Reds were Madson's only bidder.
    2. Boras really needs to get a good deal for Fielder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    that's a... creative distribution of salary. affects only two fiscal years, and minimally affects this year's budget. damn clever.
    Definitely one of Walt's strengths, he is a clever guy when it comes to contracts.
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by AmarilloRed View Post
    That has to be the worst deal Boras ever negotiated for a client. The 2 things I take from that:

    1. The Reds were Madson's only bidder.
    2. Boras really needs to get a good deal for Fielder.
    Boras is in a touvh spot with Fielder. He really needs to land him a Pujols-esque contract, but while many would be willing to give him the same kind of annual diollars, I don't think anyone will do it over a like period of years. Because of his wieght and longevity concerns, I can't see anyone giving him more than three years. IMO, even five years would mean he would have to reduce the dollar per year average.

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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Boras is in a touvh spot with Fielder. He really needs to land him a Pujols-esque contract, but while many would be willing to give him the same kind of annual diollars, I don't think anyone will do it over a like period of years. Because of his wieght and longevity concerns, I can't see anyone giving him more than three years. IMO, even five years would mean he would have to reduce the dollar per year average.
    I agree with the premise of your post. Fielder wanted a 10-year deal when FA started and he's not going to get anything close to that. But I assure you he will get more than a three-year deal. Someone will sign him for 5 or 6 years IMO. But that's still a far cry from what he was originally requesting.

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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    FYI:

    Ryan Madson was scratched from a scheduled appearance Thursday in a minor league game. There is a problem with his elbow.
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    no bueno. TJ.

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    Hello Chapman as the closer.
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Here is Fay's report on it:

    http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/201...ck-for-madson/

    Reds closer Ryan Madson probably is not going to pitch in a minor league game today as planned.

    The Reds aren’t saying much about it.

    “We’re sorting it out,” Reds general manager Walt Jocketty said. “We’ll let you know.”
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.


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