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    Re: Ludwick to sign with Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by alett12 View Post
    I honestly think corey patterson would have been a better idea on a minor league deal. He has speed, can play defense, and play all 3 outfield spots plus he would have been much cheaper. It makes me sick knowing heisey wont get his chance to start because of dusty's love of veterans, strikeout kings, and guys who can't make contact. If he starts i see the reds not making it anywhere near .500 much less the playoffs.
    Heisey won't get to start... because Dusty loves guys who strikeout? D..do you even follow this team?

    And while I agree Heisey should get his chance to be the everyday starter, do you honestly believe that if Ludwick gets the majority of the playing time, we'll go from playoff contenders to under .500?

    I mean I know the guy's been trending down and we shouldn't expect much, but -10 wins would make me miss Taveras.

    Miss. Taveras. That's how I know your post can't be true.


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    Re: Ludwick to sign with Reds

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    Heisey won't get to start... because Dusty loves guys who strikeout? D..do you even follow this team?

    And while I agree Heisey should get his chance to be the everyday starter, do you honestly believe that if Ludwick gets the majority of the playing time, we'll go from playoff contenders to under .500?

    I mean I know the guy's been trending down and we shouldn't expect much, but -10 wins would make me miss Taveras.

    Miss. Taveras. That's how I know your post can't be true.
    I said that dusty loves guys who strike out. Don't you even read the posts?

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    Re: Ludwick to sign with Reds

    Why does everyone love Heisey?

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    Re: Ludwick to sign with Reds

    I think this years team will set the major league strike out record and even though they made all these moves they still will not win a play off game.
    When I see the 2016 Reds, I see a 100 loss team and no direction.

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    Re: Ludwick to sign with Reds

    Even with the Ludwick signing, I would still give Heisey 500 AB's.

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    Re: Ludwick to sign with Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by izzy's dad View Post
    I think this is a solid signing, as long as Dusty doesn't run him out there every day. Dusty does like his veterans. If used correctly a Ludwick/Heisey platoon can be pretty productive. But that is a big if.
    If things go bad at least we won't need to wait until bobblehead night for Walt to cut bait.

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    Re: Ludwick to sign with Reds

    Here's my take...

    Big production with St. Louis (a contender)....sub-par production with SD and Pitt (non-contenders)..... If things follow course, he should have a nice production year with the contending Reds. Maybe this is just wishful thinking but some players just perform better when they have something to play for.

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    Re: Ludwick to sign with Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by NorrisHopper30 View Post
    Why does everyone love Heisey?
    Cheap, versatile, good defense, waiting in the wings for a long time, came up as a prospect after a great year, but never got a real chance to start.

    More importantly, he was the option last season that wasn't Gomes or Lewis.

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    Re: Ludwick to sign with Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by alett12 View Post
    I said that dusty loves guys who strike out. Don't you even read the posts?
    Yes, I do. You said that Dusty loves guys who strike out. You also said that because of this, he won't start Heisey. Heisey strikes out at a very high rate.

    Are we starting to see the gaps in this line of thinking yet

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    Re: Ludwick to sign with Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    Here's my take...

    Big production with St. Louis (a contender)....sub-par production with SD and Pitt (non-contenders)..... If things follow course, he should have a nice production year with the contending Reds. Maybe this is just wishful thinking but some players just perform better when they have something to play for.
    St. Louis = red uniforms!
    SD and Pitt = non-red uniforms!

    If things follow suit, we've got a sure-fire 30 HRs!

    I just think everything about Ludwick is trending the wrong way. I don't even buy the Petco argument, really. Sure that would explain a bit of a tail off in power numbers, but the guy's on base abilities in general have nose-dived the last 4 years. He may hit a couple more homers here, but he's not a definite answer for LF.

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    Re: Ludwick to sign with Reds

    Career 0.804 OPS against RHP (0.751 vs. LHP).

    Reverse splits look good to me.

    Still want to see another LH bat signed or traded for, though Theriot would be another nice acquisition.

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    Re: Ludwick to sign with Reds

    While I don't think Ludwick provides much of an upgrade the market for available outfielders thinned out as the Reds addressed other key needs. Hopefully his production doesn't continue on his three year trend and he can be a viable platoon with Heisey or play when Heisey gives Stubbs a day off in center.

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    Re: Ludwick to sign with Reds

    I think this is a decent signing for the Reds given the tiny contract.

    Certainly his decline since 09 (08 really, but he got MVP votes that season so he over-performed) is concerning along with the fact that he'll be turning 34 in the middle of the season.

    But with that said, there are some decent trends that make me think that he has a chance to turn things around to a small degree. His strikeout % hasn't gone up very much and he still seems to have a little bit of power, so I think there is a nice chance that he still has it in him to improve. In fact I would bet on him improving over last year, but how much is the question.

    Obviously he won't be the player he was with my Cards but I do think he's better then he's been playing the past two years. He is a nice defender and was always a clutch player for us, often coming up with the big hit and clutch diving catch in the outfield. He should be a nice pinch hit option if nothing else and a good defensive replacement.
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    Re: Ludwick to sign with Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by NorrisHopper30 View Post
    Why does everyone love Heisey?
    People love heisey because of the stats he's posted in the minors.
    minor league career hitting line of BA .294 OBP .365 SLG .458 OPS .823
    I wont look it up but i know for a fact that is better than stubbs or ludwick i'm not sure about bruce.

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    Re: Ludwick to sign with Reds

    Ludwick could have a better year than he's had recently just from playing most of his games in GABP. Hopefully it works out that way. I still think Heisey is the starter but I cant help but think that the lineup seems to look better with Ludwick hitting 4th when he plays rather than Rolen hitting 4th when Heisey plays.(at least thats how I think it will work out.)

    With Heisey...
    Phillips
    Cozart
    Votto
    Rolen
    Bruce
    Heisey
    Hanigan/Mes
    Stubbs

    With Ludwick...
    Phillips
    Cozart
    Votto
    Ludwick
    Bruce
    Rolen
    Han/Mes
    Stubbs

    IMO this could happen. I like that 2nd lineup better. I dont kno tho thats why Im sitting on the computer right now and not anywhere close to the dugout.


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