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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

    Can anyone win a road game? Illinois upset by Penn State last night.
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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

    IU is going to have to have a winning record in their league. At least 8-8. And even with that, it's a crapshoot.
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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    IU is going to have to have a winning record in their league. At least 8-8. And even with that, it's a crapshoot.
    Well they play 18 games, so it will be at least 9-9. When you say it's a crapshoot, do you think it would be a crapshoot for IU to get in if it is 9-9?

    I'd strongly disagree with that assessment. First if the Minnesota loss at home ends up being the 2nd worst loss on the resume, than Indiana will have only one truly bad loss in the eyes of the committee. Minnesota is likely to finish with at least a winning record overall.

    My guess is if IU gets to 9-9 that will be good enough for 6th in the B1G Ten.
    I'd be surprised to see a team which finishes below 6th in the conference jump over IU, as again IU had the best non-conference wins aside from perhaps Ohio State. And I'd be quite surprised if the tournament was too selective to include the 6th ranked team in the best conference(statistically) when that team is at worst 22-10(with a loss in the first round of the B1G Ten Tournament) and has wins over Kentucky, Ohio State, and Michigan.
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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

    Quote Originally Posted by Razor Shines View Post
    Exactly. I don't understand the hand wringing and gnashing of teeth in this thread.

    They're still learning to win on the road. Nebraska is a bad loss, for sure, but they're gonna still be somewhat volatile throughout this season.

    I don't have any doubts about Crean. This team will still make the tourney and as stated above probably finish the season ranked anywhere from 15-25.
    I was actually more positive about the Nebraska game than the Minnesota one. IU played horrible against Minnesota for the whole game, and it was only through Minnesota's lack of ability to put them away that the Hoosiers even had a chance at the end.

    I actually thought on the whole, the team played well for about 33 minutes on Wednesday. Now the Hoosiers just have to do a better job of finishing a team off when they have it on the ropes.
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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

    Very few teams get to the dance without at least a .500 record in their conference ....does not happen much... I want u guys to win out...it helps the cat's rpi
    Not this year...maybe a Wild Card

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Foster View Post
    Very few teams get to the dance without at least a .500 record in their conference ....does not happen much... I want u guys to win out...it helps the cat's rpi
    I think if they go 8-10 they would get in if they win a conference tourney game. But I think they will do better than that.
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    I can't tell you what I would give to see IU as an 8-9 in our bracket.

    I'm pulling for you guys just for that reason.
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    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    Can anyone win a road game? Illinois upset by Penn State last night.
    That's the million dollar question. This article says it all.

    http://www.foxsportsdetroit.com/01/2...62&feedID=3701

    The Big Ten is ranked No. 1 in this week's RPI conference ratings. Nine Big Ten schools are in the RPI's top-50 team rankings.

    Five are also ranked in the latest Associated Press poll - No. 6 Ohio State, No. 9 Michigan State, No. 11 Indiana, No. 20 Michigan and No. 22 Illinois.

    CollegeRPI.com's latest NCAA Tournament projections list nine -- the five ranked teams plus Purdue, Wisconsin, Northwestern and Minnesota -- in the 68-team field as of now.

    Izzo said he will be "shocked" if the regular-season champ doesn't lose at least four games.

    "It could be more," he added. "I said at the beginning of the year, I think four or five."
    "I have just been more than a little suspect of all the trades since the Willy (Scott Williamson) cash grab. That one left such a bad taste in my mouth that even a 1985 Dom Pťrignon couldn't cleanse it." -- Creek14

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    Well outside of that Minn game, IU is pounding the teams at home that they should beat. That's not something you could say the last two seasons.


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    What's Crean's record on the road in the B1G so far at IU?
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    What's Crean's record on the road in the B1G so far at IU?
    I think the only b10 road win he's had is at Penn St this year. So 1 and whatever.


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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

    Quote Originally Posted by Razor Shines View Post
    I think the only b10 road win he's had is at Penn St this year. So 1 and whatever.


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    Now now, no need to exagerrate. IU is 2-29 on the road since Crean took over. But in all reality, any record before last year is just trying to distort the current picture. And really, looking at the road losses this year is part of the equation too. The loss to Nebraska was bad no doubt. But even good IU teams are unlikely to win in East Lansing, Columbus, or Madison. Part of what makes good teams good is they defend their home court. They pound weaker opponents and do enough to beat quality ones.

    IU has 4 road games left; @Michigan, @Purdue, @Iowa, and @Minnesota. If they take two of the four and win out at home(including beating Michigan State.) That will put them at 11-7 and in good shape for the tournament.
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    Well poop. 2-30.


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    On second thought. I don't mind splitting those two road games. Thats probably pretty accurate as to where they are.


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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

    Illinois up next. Crean always seems to play well vs them at home no matter how bad IU is.


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