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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Red View Post
    To Boston Red's point, i do think the B1G's toughness this year has been overstated a bit.

    The top 5 are obviously legit. Then there's a drop off to Illinois and Minnesota. The latter of whom is playing there way on the NCAA bubble. And then the bottom drops out.

    I don't know that there's been a time when the top 4 or 5 teams were any tougher than now. (And it's worth mentioning IU is currently 4-1 against UM, tOSU, Wisconsin, and tMSU)

    But there have definitely been years where the middle and bottom of the B1G were much more robust.
    Whoaa. Hang on there a tad. As of now the middle is looking pretty dang good. That would be teams 5-8 in the standings. 8 is Minnesota who are playing their way off the bubble. If anything Nebraska and Penn State are the bottom feeders.

    Lest we not forget Illinois not only beat IU.......but they won at Gonzaga and beat Butler in Hawaii.

    And what about Iowa?
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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    Whoaa. Hang on there a tad. As of now the middle is looking pretty dang good. That would be teams 5-8 in the standings. 8 is Minnesota who are playing their way off the bubble. If anything Nebraska and Penn State are the bottom feeders.

    Lest we not forget Illinois not only beat IU.......but they won at Gonzaga and beat Butler in Hawaii.

    And what about Iowa?
    Not to mention that Northwestern - which lost three significant contributors for the season - and Penn State - which lost potential All Big Ten PG Tim Frazier for the season - wouldn't be gimmes at all if healthy.

    I agree with you about Iowa as the wild card.

    I also agree with you about the tourney as the ultimate "report card." But if the tourney games are officiated ACC style - very little physicality allowed - Big Ten and, for that matter, Big East teams could be in trouble.
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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    Whoaa. Hang on there a tad. As of now the middle is looking pretty dang good. That would be teams 5-8 in the standings. 8 is Minnesota who are playing their way off the bubble. If anything Nebraska and Penn State are the bottom feeders.

    Lest we not forget Illinois not only beat IU.......but they won at Gonzaga and beat Butler in Hawaii.

    And what about Iowa?
    Well like I said, top 5 you'll get no argument. Very strong.

    Breakdown everyone else.
    #6 Illinois- Very inconsistent. Beaten IU, Gonzaga and Butler. Lost to Northwestern and Purdue.

    #7 Iowa- Meh. No real great teams they've beaten, but haven't lost to anyone below them either.

    #8 Minnesota- Started 15-1, 3-7 since. Lost the last two games by 21 and 27 points.


    I guess you could say that Northwestern and Penn State would be better without injuries, but that's the point. The lower level teams are either too injured, too inexperienced, or too pathetic to put a fight up to the upper level teams.

    TMBS, the B1G is still the best conference this year. But there have definitely been years where it's been a much deeper and tougher conference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Red View Post
    Well like I said, top 5 you'll get no argument. Very strong.

    Breakdown everyone else.
    #6 Illinois- Very inconsistent. Beaten IU, Gonzaga and Butler. Lost to Northwestern and Purdue.

    #7 Iowa- Meh. No real great teams they've beaten, but haven't lost to anyone below them either.

    #8 Minnesota- Started 15-1, 3-7 since. Lost the last two games by 21 and 27 points.


    I guess you could say that Northwestern and Penn State would be better without injuries, but that's the point. The lower level teams are either too injured, too inexperienced, or too pathetic to put a fight up to the upper level teams.

    TMBS, the B1G is still the best conference this year. But there have definitely been years where it's been a much deeper and tougher conference.
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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

    Hoosier, I suppose alot of people would call it "top heavy" 1-5. But I dont want to play at Illinois, Iowa, or Minnesota. 8 of the 12 are dang fine teams at this point. I would take Minnesota over any team that is 3rd in their conference in the rest of America on a neutral floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    Hoosier, I suppose alot of people would call it "top heavy" 1-5. But I dont want to play at Illinois, Iowa, or Minnesota. 8 of the 12 are dang fine teams at this point. I would take Minnesota over any team that is 3rd in their conference in the rest of America on a neutral floor.
    So, you'd take Minnesota over Louisville, Marquette, or Arizona? I think your bias is clouding your judgement. Indiana game aside Minnesota hasn't played well since entering conference play and was moving towards the bubble before that win. They're not very good.

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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

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    So, you'd take Minnesota over Louisville, Marquette, or Arizona? I think your bias is clouding your judgement. Indiana game aside Minnesota hasn't played well since entering conference play and was moving towards the bubble before that win. They're not very good.
    There is a reason they moved into the top ten. Bias aside, I dont want to play the Gophers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    There is a reason they moved into the top ten. Bias aside, I dont want to play the Gophers.
    That was before they lost just about every big ten game.

    I would be happy if Louisville was matched up with Minnesota at some point in the tournament.

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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

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    That was before they lost just about every big ten game.

    I would be happy if Louisville was matched up with Minnesota at some point in the tournament.
    You dont want to play them, even on a neutral floor. Bad match up for the Cards. The pieces are there, they just havent shown too well in the B1G.
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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

    How IU started wearing the candy striped warmups.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-...tml#more-19322
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    Good find Chip. That's awesome.
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    20 years is too long, finally a Big "ten" championship!
    I was in the ORG once, best 6 months of my life.

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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

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    20 years is too long, finally a Big "ten" championship!
    I hear ya loud and clear.
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    Re: Indiana Basketball 2011-2012 Part II

    After what Sampson did to the program, Crean was the right guy at the right time. Great reward for what he did to bring IU back.

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