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    Wilson Valdez to CIN

    Jeremy Horst for Wilson Valdez. Thoughts?

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    Re: Wilson Valdez to CIN

    Who cares.

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    Re: Wilson Valdez to CIN

    Looks like a no-go for Tarry-Oh!

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    Re: Wilson Valdez to CIN

    we found our 19th inning pitcher
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    Re: Wilson Valdez to CIN

    I just asked in another thread: Is he anything different than Janish?

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    Re: Wilson Valdez to CIN

    He's a slightly better hitter, slightly worse defender. I'm a little surprised, in that I thought Horst was a future ML middle reliever, but who knows? Apparently Valdez can also serve as an emergency fifth outfielder (and reliever, obviously), so that makes a little more sense. He has a non-roster invite to Spring Training, and I don't think Horst was on the 40-man, so they'd have to move somebody if he were to make the team.

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    Re: Wilson Valdez to CIN

    Jim Bowden just tweeted out that Cincinnati has some concerns about Cozart coming back from Tommy John. If that's true, it would probably be more plate concerns than fielding. That might be the biggest story to watch in Spring Training.

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    Re: Wilson Valdez to CIN

    I like this trade. When Horst was on waivers, he was passed up by all 29 teams, and Valdez has a little pop and can play some average defense at short and can fill in at 3rd and 2nd if needed.
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    Re: Wilson Valdez to CIN

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsFan_26 View Post
    Valdez has a little pop
    A guys with six career homeruns and 43 career doubles isn't normally described as having a little pop.

    Unless his dad is 5'4", in which case I retract my statement.

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    Re: Wilson Valdez to CIN

    Quote Originally Posted by WildcatFan View Post
    A guys with six career homeruns and 43 career doubles isn't normally described as having a little pop.

    Unless his dad is 5'4", in which case I retract my statement.
    He is a backup guy and i said "little" pop, comparing him to our now backup Janish. And i dont know what your second comment has anything to do with anything
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    Re: Wilson Valdez to CIN

    Quote Originally Posted by WildcatFan View Post
    A guys with six career homeruns and 43 career doubles isn't normally described as having a little pop.

    Unless his dad is 5'4", in which case I retract my statement.
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    Re: Wilson Valdez to CIN

    Quote Originally Posted by WildcatFan View Post
    A guys with six career homeruns and 43 career doubles isn't normally described as having a little pop.

    Unless his dad is 5'4", in which case I retract my statement.
    I think what he was alluding too is this comparison or Valdez's "pop" versus Janish's:

    In the last two seasons Valdez has 663 PA, with 42 XBH's.
    In that same span Janish has 594 PA, with only 30 XBH's.

    to dig a little deeper...
    Janish's oRAR and oWAR are solidly below replacement level(a combined -4 and -.05 respectively according to BaseballReference), while Valdez's show him to be just slightly north of replacement level (with a combined oRAR of 6 and oWAR of .06).

    Also they share an identical .09 dWAR during that stretch, but Valdez hasn't spent as much time at short. That obviously has nothing to do with their "pop", but it puts their overall value into perspective and hopefully illustrates to everyone that Valdez is likely, at the least, a better option than Janish for the 25-man roster.

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    Re: Wilson Valdez to CIN

    Horst will be a beast, it seems Walt is trading our entire farm system.
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    Re: Wilson Valdez to CIN

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfanmia View Post
    Horst will be a beast, it seems Walt is trading our entire farm system.
    Hahaha horst is a scrub I like Valdez as a back up who is basicaly the same type of guy they just signed in Harris but younger and I really would prefer to see Frazier as the #1 back up at SS

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    Re: Wilson Valdez to CIN

    Me also with Frazier as backup shortstop.


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