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    Where will Oswalt end up?

    Per Rotoworld:

    Jim Duquette of MLB Network Radio on Sirius XM reports that the Cardinals and Roy Oswalt are close to an agreement.
    So that's pretty much worst-case scenario.
    "It's still a long way to the top if we want to rock'n'roll, but at least they dumped the tuba player."
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    Re: Oswalt Close to Deal with Cards

    Jeez. Every friggin year they jump on a player the Reds should have a LOT more interest in. Sickening.

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    Re: Oswalt Close to Deal with Cards

    A bit more detail:

    The specifics of the offer aren't known, but Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported this week that the Cardinals made an offer to Oswalt earlier this winter "approaching $5 million." According to Duquette, the Red Sox, Astros and Rangers remain in the mix. The Astros would be a weird landing spot considering that the alternatives are all expected to contend, but the veteran right-hander was originally drafted by the club in 1996 and spent the first 10 years of his major-league career there. For what it's worth, Michael Silverman of the Boston Globe hears that Oswalt will not make a decision this week regarding where he'll sign. Stay tuned.
    "It's still a long way to the top if we want to rock'n'roll, but at least they dumped the tuba player."
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    Re: Oswalt Close to Deal with Cards

    this is when I sigh and say /thank God Dave Duncan retired
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    Re: Oswalt Close to Deal with Cards

    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    this is when I sigh and say /thank God Dave Duncan retired
    I'd feel better because of this if the Cards were signing someone that once was good but has been garbage lately but Oswalt will probably be good with or without Duncan.

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    Re: Oswalt Close to Deal with Cards

    Carpenter
    Wainwright
    Garcia
    Lohse
    Westbrook/Oswalt?

    IDK

    Still lot's of questions on that rotation. Carp's older, TJ for Wain, Lohse is Lohse, I'm still thinking Garcia will wakeup and NOT be a #2, Westbrook is bad, Oswalt is hopefully not healthy...

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    Re: Oswalt Close to Deal with Cards

    No god please no.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Oswalt Close to Deal with Cards

    Quote Originally Posted by Santo Alcala View Post
    Jeez. Every friggin year they jump on a player the Reds should have a LOT more interest in. Sickening.
    Why should the Reds have a lot of interest in Oswalt? The rotation is pretty well set IMHO.

    Arroyo is the only guy I'd rather have Oswalt over going forward, and for the money they're paying Arroyo, that obviously wasn't gonna happen.
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    Re: Oswalt Close to Deal with Cards

    Don't say you're going "all in" and basically reject a pitcher who is something like 24-2 in his career against you. Whatever his numbers might have been in your favor, double them by what he he is likely to do to you now. They are reportedly going to get Oswalt for around $5 mil.

    I love what the team is trying to do this winter. But, don't even try to say you are "all in" and stand around and watch something like this happen. I have a problem with people that keep saying that. As far as I am concerned, we are not done yet if we are truly "all in".

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    Re: Oswalt Close to Deal with Cards

    Quote Originally Posted by Santo Alcala View Post
    Don't say you're going "all in" and basically reject a pitcher who is something like 24-2 in his career against you. Whatever his numbers might have been in your favor, double them by what he he is likely to do to you now. They are reportedly going to get Oswalt for around $5 mil.

    I love what the team is trying to do this winter. But, don't even try to say you are "all in" and stand around and watch something like this happen. I have a problem with people that keep saying that. As far as I am concerned, we are not done yet if we are truly "all in".
    So do you propose we simply just cut Arroyo then, because he is the only pitcher Oswalt seems to surely outpitch moving forward?

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    Re: Oswalt Close to Deal with Cards

    Quote Originally Posted by Santo Alcala View Post
    Don't say you're going "all in" and basically reject a pitcher who is something like 24-2 in his career against you. Whatever his numbers might have been in your favor, double them by what he he is likely to do to you now. They are reportedly going to get Oswalt for around $5 mil.

    I love what the team is trying to do this winter. But, don't even try to say you are "all in" and stand around and watch something like this happen. I have a problem with people that keep saying that. As far as I am concerned, we are not done yet if we are truly "all in".
    Going all in doesn't mean the Reds should break the bank for a 34-year old pitcher who only pitched 139 innings last year and saw a pretty big drop in velocity.

    To be honest, I think he'll be a serviceable pitcher this year but I actually don't believe he'll be much (if any) better than what the Reds have.
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

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    Re: Oswalt Close to Deal with Cards

    Quote Originally Posted by Santo Alcala View Post
    Don't say you're going "all in" and basically reject a pitcher who is something like 24-2 in his career against you. Whatever his numbers might have been in your favor, double them by what he he is likely to do to you now.
    Here's his last four starts against the Reds:

    7IP, 4ER
    5IP, 4ER
    7IP, 3ER
    5IP, 6ER

    Those games were in 2009-10, and the Reds won all four. He may have owned the team in the mid '00s, but that isn't relevant any more.

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    Re: Oswalt Close to Deal with Cards

    I hope you guys are right.

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    Re: Oswalt Close to Deal with Cards

    Lord I thought we was rid of this guy!! You watch and see he will pitch ten times better just b/c its with the Cards.
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    Re: Oswalt Close to Deal with Cards

    In 2011:

    Francis 2.6 WAR
    Oswalt 2.5 WAR


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