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    Well, I was wrong on Decastro's agility. He pretty much solidified his status. Cordy Glenn running a 5.15 40, at 345? Wow.
    Well DeCastro didn't run very well 5.43 below average. Doesn't seem to jibe with his gametape but who knows. The thing I like about Glenn is he has the measurements to be a potential RT down the road if need be and I'm not sure Andre Smith will remain a Bengal when he comes a FA. I'd hate to invest the contract he'll no doubt be looking for on a season or 2 of good but not stellar play. Having Glenn at RG would give the Bengals some leverage in such a situation at the very least. Not sure about his feet/quickness but it seems at least possible.
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    Well DeCastro didn't run very well 5.43 below average. Doesn't seem to jibe with his gametape but who knows. The thing I like about Glenn is he has the measurements to be a potential RT down the road if need be and I'm not sure Andre Smith will remain a Bengal when he comes a FA. I'd hate to invest the contract he'll no doubt be looking for on a season or 2 of good but not stellar play. Having Glenn at RG would give the Bengals some leverage in such a situation at the very least. Not sure about his feet/quickness but it seems at least possible.
    DeCastro looked better in the cones and position drills than I expected. The reason I expected him to drop is because pretty much every year, the top guard comes to the combine, and "disappoints". Guards are more of a 2nd-4th round position. Teams are looking for confirmation biases. Decastro did everything I expect an interior lineman to do. Glenn does provide insurance against Smith leaving. I just don't want to give Andre Smith a big payday. I read were he was like the 13th best statistical tackle in the league this season (Whitworth was like 5th). I worry that he will go back to being a slob if the carrot is taken away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    DeCastro looked better in the cones and position drills than I expected. The reason I expected him to drop is because pretty much every year, the top guard comes to the combine, and "disappoints". Guards are more of a 2nd-4th round position. Teams are looking for confirmation biases. Decastro did everything I expect an interior lineman to do. Glenn does provide insurance against Smith leaving. I just don't want to give Andre Smith a big payday. I read were he was like the 13th best statistical tackle in the league this season (Whitworth was like 5th). I worry that he will go back to being a slob if the carrot is taken away.
    Agree with the Andre situation. One stellar season would set him up for a monster deal and I suspect that could be the end for him, might get one more decent season but I wouldn't expect more than that.
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    The thing I like about Glenn is he has the measurements to be a potential RT down the road if need be and I'm not sure Andre Smith will remain a Bengal when he comes a FA.
    I think that's a great point and hopefully something the Bengals consider.

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    I think that's a great point and hopefully something the Bengals consider.
    Also Bobby Massie in the 2nd ala Whitworth. Use him as a OG now and an OT in the future. Killing 2 birds with one stone is wise way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    Also Bobby Massie in the 2nd ala Whitworth. Use him as a OG now and an OT in the future. Killing 2 birds with one stone is wise way to go.
    I do think it is a wise strategy. I'd make Andre prove he's legit a second year and a Glenn and/or Massie as a backup plan is a wise strategy. If Andre does well, you can always franchise him for a year and then work out something longer term. I'm just afraid Mikey uses this offseason to give fat contracts to guys like Smith who haven't totally proven themselves (like Gathers a few years ago) instead of using money at a few key spots in free agency.

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    Jerome Simpson pleads guilty. Could get up to 60 days in the hole.

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    Not going to happen. I'll bet you on it. Specifically with Rice.
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    All reports have Tampa taking Richardson as they absolutely love him, however things could change between now and the draft. I would imagine things will heat up if the Cards are on the clock and Richardson is still there.

    As far as tagging Nugent I have no problem with it. I'd rather tag him then Nelson who is average at best at the safety position, no use paying him top 5 money when he isn't top 5 talent. I'd rather pay money to Landry.

    Why do I have the feeling with 60 million the Bengals will sit on their hands with Nate Livings as the only signing.
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    Not a fan of that move. If Richardson falls to them at 17, they should, as I read elsewhere, make light speed to the podium. But there is enough running back talent that I'd rather see them draft a solid OG and a lesser RB than trade the opportunity to improve the line in lieu of a running back that is going to need that line.

    Actually, if Richardson fell to them at 17, what I wouldn't mind seeing is them trade down and get both of New England's First round picks as well as one of their second rounders. Then with the five picks in the first two rounds draft CB, DL, OG, OG, RB in no particular order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Not a fan of that move. If Richardson falls to them at 17, they should, as I read elsewhere, make light speed to the podium. But there is enough running back talent that I'd rather see them draft a solid OG and a lesser RB than trade the opportunity to improve the line in lieu of a running back that is going to need that line.

    Actually, if Richardson fell to them at 17, what I wouldn't mind seeing is them trade down and get both of New England's First round picks as well as one of their second rounders. Then with the five picks in the first two rounds draft CB, DL, OG, OG, RB in no particular order.
    The only problem there is that NE has to offer you that much and I don't see that happening

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    Lewis/Gruden seem to be really high on Pead.
    Choo got it, dude.

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    A little surprised the Bengals haven't signed anyone yet in FA. even a second- tier player would send a message.
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