Revering4Blue (10-10-2013)
Jim Irsay is an idiot:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/98...aking-personal
George Anderson (10-18-2013),Razor Shines (10-16-2013)
When I see the 2016 Reds, I see a 100 loss team and no direction.
Revering4Blue (10-17-2013)
George Anderson (10-18-2013),Sea Ray (10-17-2013)
QB with one Super Bowl win? I thought there were 11 players on the field for each side for each play. Ask Michael Jordan about the "one guy cannot win a championship" when he was 20% of the total before the Bulls got a few more studs (vs 9% for one football player). Perhaps Dan Marino would be a good one to ask relative to the same sport.
Same crap bugs me when people say so-and-so should not make the Hall of Fame b/c HE never won a championship. '85 Bears, '00 Ravens, '03 Buccaneers, '13 Ravens. I'd argue these TEAMS won it all with less than stellar QBs.
Dom Heffner (10-28-2013),jimbo (10-17-2013),joshua (10-18-2013),Razor Shines (10-16-2013),Revering4Blue (10-17-2013)
If you are going to compare Peyton Manning to the QB's who have one Super Bowl the list is long and pretty ordinary. If you want to compare the Peyton to his peer's then you are going to compare him to the greats of the game.
All I said is I think Irsay has a point. It wasn't all Peyton's fault, it was the fault of the entire Colts team, but the QB gets the glory and he also gets the blame. When you compare Peyton's regular record to his playoff record it is pretty shocking. Even Dungy admitted that Peyton gets tense in playoff situations. I think Irsay's comments were accurate and those those who were offended by them need to take a closer look at this playoff performance.
redsfanmia (10-17-2013)
George Anderson (10-18-2013),Razor Shines (10-18-2013)
Jim irsay is turning into the idiot his dad was.
"Boys, I'm one of those umpires that misses 'em every once in a while so if it's close, you'd better hit it." Cal Hubbard
Razor Shines (10-18-2013)
I think you have good points. Of course it's not just one guy who is responsible for the success or to blame for the failure. I think Irsay is probably getting a little tired of hearing Peyton, Peyton, Peyton all week long. I think he's also of the mind that he should deserve some of the credit for the Colts success during the Peyton era and their success in the last two years. It's understandable. After all his dad brought the team into town. He's (Jim Irsay) paid the salaries, hired the right coaches, hired the right personnel who drafted and signed the right players and kept the team together. He probably wants a little appreciation. Being an owner is kind of a thankless task. When the team wins, the credit goes to the players, coaches, front office and ownership in that order. Sure, the owner gets the Lombardi Trophy from the Commissioner but after that nobody gives a crap about the owner.
George Anderson (10-18-2013)
Did he inherit the team? Yes but he also worked in the organization from ball boy to general manager. Irsay is a good owner who turned a terrible franchise into a great one, think the reverse of the Browns in Cincinnati. The only thing Irsay is guilty of here is saying something that got twisted and blown out of proportion.
When I see the 2016 Reds, I see a 100 loss team and no direction.
gilpdawg (10-18-2013),Revering4Blue (10-19-2013)
When I see the 2016 Reds, I see a 100 loss team and no direction.
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