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Thread: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I am not saying EE has changed. I am saying that the excuse that anyone could have had him for free at some point in time doesn't tell us much of anything. I conveyed that poorly in my previous post.
    It tells us more than the Bautista example does in that context.


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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I am not saying EE has changed. I am saying that the excuse that anyone could have had him for free at some point in time doesn't tell us much of anything. I conveyed that poorly in my previous post.
    Teams could have had Josh Hamilton and Johan Santana for $50,000 in the rule five draft, and every team had 15 chances to pick Albert Pujols in the June draft.

    The fact that a handfull of players eligible for the rule five draft and available in the 16th round of the June draft turned out to be great, doesn't change the fact that 99% of them aren't very good. The same is true for players placed on waivers.

    The fact that a player was once placed on waivers tells us bostloads about that player. It tells us that the odds are high that he will ever be at least a league average player. Sure some do, but the vast majority do not.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Teams could have had Josh Hamilton and Johan Santana for $50,000 in the rule five draft, and every team had 15 chances to pick Albert Pujols in the June draft.

    The fact that a handfull of players eligible for the rule five draft and available in the 16th round of the June draft turned out to be great, doesn't change the fact that 99% of them aren't very good. The same is true for players placed on waivers.

    The fact that a player was once placed on waivers tells us bostloads about that player. It tells us that the odds are high that he will ever be at least a league average player. Sure some do, but the vast majority do not.
    Edwin has actually been an above average hitter in his career, with a career 106 OPS+.

    And while you are right that someone being placed on waivers probably tells us something about that player, it doesn't mean that there aren't exceptions. Edwin has generally been a solid hitter, it has been his defense that has been the problem in his game.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Edwin just clubbed another HR.
    “I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Speaking of EE, Josh Roenicke and Zach Stewart have been pitching out of the bullpen for the Rockies and White Sox, respectively.
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...oenijo01.shtml
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...tewaza01.shtml

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Edwin just clubbed another HR.
    Edwin is crazy at the Skydome.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Edwin is crazy at the Skydome.
    Indeed. MUCH easier to hit there than pitcher friendly GABP...wait, what?

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    Indeed. MUCH easier to hit there than pitcher friendly GABP...wait, what?
    Just makes you wonder.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    Indeed. MUCH easier to hit there than pitcher friendly GABP...wait, what?
    Rogers Centre has been a better hitters park than GABP every year from 2009 to now, according to MLB Park Factors.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Rogers Centre has been a better hitters park than GABP every year from 2009 to now, according to MLB Park Factors.
    Cool. And GABP is such a pitcher's paradise, right?

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    The EE hate on this board is silly.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Just makes you wonder.
    Oh. I would guess that's another one of your veiled accusations of steroid use by a player. Ok.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Rogers Centre has been a better hitters park than GABP every year from 2009 to now, according to MLB Park Factors.
    Anyone see Coco blow a save there on Friday night? He had some horrible defense behind him but he still was very hittable. Same old Coco. We know him well

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    Oh. I would guess that's another one of your veiled accusations of steroid use by a player. Ok.
    A one instrument band that is

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

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