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Thread: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I am not saying EE has changed. I am saying that the excuse that anyone could have had him for free at some point in time doesn't tell us much of anything. I conveyed that poorly in my previous post.
    It tells us more than the Bautista example does in that context.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I am not saying EE has changed. I am saying that the excuse that anyone could have had him for free at some point in time doesn't tell us much of anything. I conveyed that poorly in my previous post.
    Teams could have had Josh Hamilton and Johan Santana for $50,000 in the rule five draft, and every team had 15 chances to pick Albert Pujols in the June draft.

    The fact that a handfull of players eligible for the rule five draft and available in the 16th round of the June draft turned out to be great, doesn't change the fact that 99% of them aren't very good. The same is true for players placed on waivers.

    The fact that a player was once placed on waivers tells us bostloads about that player. It tells us that the odds are high that he will ever be at least a league average player. Sure some do, but the vast majority do not.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Teams could have had Josh Hamilton and Johan Santana for $50,000 in the rule five draft, and every team had 15 chances to pick Albert Pujols in the June draft.

    The fact that a handfull of players eligible for the rule five draft and available in the 16th round of the June draft turned out to be great, doesn't change the fact that 99% of them aren't very good. The same is true for players placed on waivers.

    The fact that a player was once placed on waivers tells us bostloads about that player. It tells us that the odds are high that he will ever be at least a league average player. Sure some do, but the vast majority do not.
    Edwin has actually been an above average hitter in his career, with a career 106 OPS+.

    And while you are right that someone being placed on waivers probably tells us something about that player, it doesn't mean that there aren't exceptions. Edwin has generally been a solid hitter, it has been his defense that has been the problem in his game.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Edwin just clubbed another HR.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Speaking of EE, Josh Roenicke and Zach Stewart have been pitching out of the bullpen for the Rockies and White Sox, respectively.
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...oenijo01.shtml
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...tewaza01.shtml

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Edwin just clubbed another HR.
    Edwin is crazy at the Skydome.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Edwin is crazy at the Skydome.
    Indeed. MUCH easier to hit there than pitcher friendly GABP...wait, what?

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    Indeed. MUCH easier to hit there than pitcher friendly GABP...wait, what?
    Just makes you wonder.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    Indeed. MUCH easier to hit there than pitcher friendly GABP...wait, what?
    Rogers Centre has been a better hitters park than GABP every year from 2009 to now, according to MLB Park Factors.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Rogers Centre has been a better hitters park than GABP every year from 2009 to now, according to MLB Park Factors.
    Cool. And GABP is such a pitcher's paradise, right?

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    The EE hate on this board is silly.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Just makes you wonder.
    Oh. I would guess that's another one of your veiled accusations of steroid use by a player. Ok.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Rogers Centre has been a better hitters park than GABP every year from 2009 to now, according to MLB Park Factors.
    Anyone see Coco blow a save there on Friday night? He had some horrible defense behind him but he still was very hittable. Same old Coco. We know him well

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    Oh. I would guess that's another one of your veiled accusations of steroid use by a player. Ok.
    A one instrument band that is

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    DENO sighting, 926 OPS plus beard


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