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Thread: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Watched tape of his swing last night and I was floored. Very compact and therefore is letting the ball travel far into the zone.

    I wouldn't be shocked if he turns into a legitimate 4/5 bat for years to come. Someone is coaching these guys well in Toronto, IMO.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    They won't trade Hamilton. He's had plenty of publicity in Cincy already -- that's a sign, IMO.
    Funny...that wasn't the case for the last Hamilton in the organization to get publicity.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Edwin had 2 non-small sample size .900 plus OPS months in 2006. Ended up with an .831 OPS.

    Edwin had 2 .900 plus OPS months in 2007. Ended up with a .794 OPS.

    Edwin had 3 .900 plus OPS months in 2008. Ended up with an .807 OPS.

    Edwin had 2 .900 plus OPS months in 2009. Ended up with a .729 OPS.

    Edwin had 2 .900 plus OPS months in 2010. Ended up with a .787 OPS.

    Edwin had 2 .900 plus OPS months in 2011. Ended up with a .787 OPS.

    Odds are that this is more of the same, but we should probably just wait it out a bit before making any wide ranging proclamations on his success.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Even though Edwin has had his ups and downs with the Jays his numbers are as good or better than Rolen's numbers since the trade.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    Even though Edwin has had his ups and downs with the Jays his numbers are as good or better than Rolen's numbers since the trade.
    And those fielding numbers.......

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    IIRC didn't the Jays at one point non-tender EE? Anybody who wanted him could have had him.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    They play him a lot at first base. He wouldn't able to do that here. I've watched him at third over the last three years, and I think he has regressed.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    And those fielding numbers.......

    Was talking about his offensive numbers.. And yes the Jays did put Edwin on waivers.. but his numbers are still as good or better than Rolen's.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    In a thread title listing seven former Red properties traded in the two big offseason deals, we've managed to come full circle back to an old Redszone polarizing favorite (EdE) from summer 2009. Surely Bender and Felipe Lopez will soon follow

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Raise your hand if you think that the Reds should have kept him, put him in LF, paid him $11MM over the past three years, kept him after watching the same offensive production as we saw prior, and stuck it out until he possibly turned a corner in 2012?

    Oh, and that's to say that he would be doing the same thing in Cincy while playing the field and not DHing in the Skydome, where he is making all of the impact.
    Where did I say any of that? Literally all I pointed out were his numbers and then "you people" begin the anti-EE assault.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    Was talking about his offensive numbers.. And yes the Jays did put Edwin on waivers.. but his numbers are still as good or better than Rolen's.

    Didn't mention his defense or say the Reds shoulda kept him.. just brought up an opinion about his numbers..

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    IIRC didn't the Jays at one point non-tender EE? Anybody who wanted him could have had him.
    Couldn't the same be said for his teammate who has hit a 110 home runs over the last two and a half seasons? Sometimes a zebra does change his offensive stripes.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Jonny Gomes has an .896 OPS this season as he pounds RHP and struggles vs LHP. Also killing it as a DH.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Couldn't the same be said for his teammate who has hit a 110 home runs over the last two and a half seasons? Sometimes a zebra does change his offensive stripes.
    Let's give it more than a month before going there.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Let's give it more than a month before going there.
    I am not saying EE has changed. I am saying that the excuse that anyone could have had him for free at some point in time doesn't tell us much of anything. I conveyed that poorly in my previous post.


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