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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Torreyes = Altuve?
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    Torreyes = Altuve?
    Doubtful. Entirely different body types. Altuve is short and stocky. Torreyes, at least right now, is short and very skinny.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Doubtful. Entirely different body types. Altuve is short and stocky. Torreyes, at least right now, is short and very skinny.
    Doubtful in what sense? That Torreyes can be a starting second baseman? I guess I was looking at it from a high batting average but little else guy.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    Doubtful in what sense? That Torreyes can be a starting second baseman? I guess I was looking at it from a high batting average but little else guy.
    Maybe they could put up similar numbers, I don't know for sure. But I would expect Altuve to hit for a bit more power.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Maybe they could put up similar numbers, I don't know for sure. But I would expect Altuve to hit for a bit more power.
    Yea, from what little I've seen of Torreyes, I doubt if he is going to hit 5 homers in a year.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Edinson's last two starts were not notable:

    Against the Reds - 5 innings, 6 hits, 5ER walking 3 and striking out 5.

    Against the NYM - 1.2 innings, 2 hits 4 ER, walking 4 and striking out 3.

    Both were starts.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Torreyes post All Start break in the hitter-unfriendly FSL:

    .327/.388/.509/.897

    19 years old.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    For the season in 351 ABs, Torreyes is batting .271 with an OPS of .730.

    That's a whole lot of "meh."

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    For the season in 351 ABs, Torreyes is batting .271 with an OPS of .730.

    That's a whole lot of "meh."
    Again, 19 years old. And the difference between the dreadful first half and the scorching second half likely means he has adjusted to the league and to being in a new organization, meaning what he's been doing recently is a better representation of who he actually is as a player. Which is a good one.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    For the season in 351 ABs, Torreyes is batting .271 with an OPS of .730.

    That's a whole lot of "meh."
    In Juan Duran and Yorman Rodriguez the reds have two guys on their prospect list because A. They spent a lot of money on them and B. they are young for their leagues. They've never really done anything interesting.

    I'll take a 19 year old that plays in the middle infield and OPS's 730 in high A ball.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    For the season in 351 ABs, Torreyes is batting .271 with an OPS of .730.

    That's a whole lot of "meh."
    In the Florida State League that is actually solid, regardless of his age. Toss in his age it is actually pretty darn good.

    Ryan Braun went through the FSL at age 21 and OPS'd .784. The two stops before and after the FSL he had a combined line of .324/.379/.611. The FSL is like playing in Petco for every game.

    Oh, and Torreyes is only one of TWO teenagers that are in the FSL who are on the offensive side of the ball. He and Gary Sanchez. Sanchez has all of 100 PA's. He is currently OPS'ing .680 after destroying the South Atlantic League with a .300/.350/.520 line as a 19 year old.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Again, 19 years old. And the difference between the dreadful first half and the scorching second half likely means he has adjusted to the league and to being in a new organization, meaning what he's been doing recently is a better representation of who he actually is as a player. Which is a good one.
    More than likely his BABIP has just found its way towards normal. His BABIP has been over .340 the last two months and he is still just sitting at .278 on the season because his April and May his BABIP was .254 and .127.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    More than likely his BABIP has just found its way towards normal. His BABIP has been over .340 the last two months and he is still just sitting at .278 on the season because his April and May his BABIP was .254 and .127.
    Impossible for me to believe that luck is the only explanation.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Edinson's last two starts were not notable:

    Against the Reds - 5 innings, 6 hits, 5ER walking 3 and striking out 5.

    Against the NYM - 1.2 innings, 2 hits 4 ER, walking 4 and striking out 3.

    Both were starts.
    Any guesses as to how long Volquez hangs around the majors?

    Its the same song and dance with him. Tantalizing stuff but so so control and throws way too many pitches. I was wondering when the Reds faced him, if you kept your bat on your shoulder, would he throw 3 strikes before 4 balls?

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Impossible for me to believe that luck is the only explanation.
    It would be interesting to see if Torreyes' line drive, ground ball, or fly ball percentage has changed much in the second half. That could provide some explanation.

    Torreyes is the anti-Dunn. He doesn't walk. He doesn't strike out. He doesn't homer.

    So most of his plate appearances, by far, result in a batted ball in play.

    Either he is hitting the ball differently this second half, for more authority, or different type of batted ball. Or maybe it is just luck.

    Sappelt, traded with Torreyes, is a similar type hitter with more power. This year his K rate is double his BB rate, but still pretty low numbers on each. He doesn't walk much, K much, or homer much. His hitting percentage numbers have swung south this year.
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