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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    Good article, but did they really call Edinson an "innings eater?"
    An "innings eater" is one of the biggest misnomers in basball.

    It is generally used to discribe a starter who's middling but gives you innings.

    The question is why you want a middling pitcher giving you extra innings of mediocre pitching.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    An "innings eater" is one of the biggest misnomers in basball.

    It is generally used to discribe a starter who's middling but gives you innings.

    The question is why you want a middling pitcher giving you extra innings of mediocre pitching.
    Because usually, the alternative is a starter who's middling but doesn't give you innings.

    i.e. Joe Blanton > Josh Fogg
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Because usually, the alternative is a starter who's middling but doesn't give you innings.

    i.e. Joe Blanton > Josh Fogg
    Or, more often, a starter who's flat out bad. The Rockies are desperate for a few quality innings eaters. The Cardinals got a lot of mileage out of innings eaters like Jeff Suppan, Jason Marquis and Woody Williams.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Because usually, the alternative is a starter who's middling but doesn't give you innings.

    i.e. Joe Blanton > Josh Fogg
    An ininings eater saves the bullpen. All you said is that a decent pitcher is better than a poor pitcher. My point is, instead of getting a middling pitcher who gives you inninghs, get a decent pitcher. When people say "innings eater", they are really saying "poor pitcher". So, in reality. the advantage of an innings eater is extra bad pitching.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    An ininings eater saves the bullpen. All you said is that a decent pitcher is better than a poor pitcher. My point is, instead of getting a middling pitcher who gives you inninghs, get a decent pitcher. When people say "innings eater", they are really saying "poor pitcher". So, in reality. the advantage of an innings eater is extra bad pitching.
    I don't think an innings pitcher is a poor pitcher, he's just not a great one. If an innings eater was giving the team poor innings, he wouldn't be an innings eater, he'd be a bad pitcher who is forced to pitch often because the team has no better alternative, i.e. Jose Acevedo, Eric Milton, Ramon Ortiz, etc.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    As this thread is generally about ex-Reds and I think we can all agree that the last thing we need now is another Adam Dunn thread, there's this:

    Adam Dunn struck out twice in last night’s win over the Indians, bringing his season total to 220. The major league record is 223, set by Mark Reynolds in 2009. Dunn could fall out of bed and strike out three times in two games, so the record is his, right?

    Well, maybe. Depends on what drives his sense of personal pride. Now that the White Sox have been eliminated it wouldn’t be shocking for Robin Ventura to sit Dunn — er, I mean for Dunn to have a “sore shoulder” or something — and have him miss the last two games, thus avoiding the dubious record
    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...ikeout-record/

    I doubt he'll get the major league record for the reasons stated above but he's already shattered his own personal high for Ks as well as the AL record. Looks like he will keep his avg off the interstate as he's at .206 right now.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    As this thread is generally about ex-Reds and I think we can all agree that the last thing we need now is another Adam Dunn thread, there's this:



    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...ikeout-record/

    I doubt he'll get the major league record for the reasons stated above but he's already shattered his own personal high for Ks as well as the AL record. Looks like he will keep his avg off the interstate as he's at .206 right now.
    41 bombs look good though. Most he's hit since 2004 too! Not a guy you'd want in the field because of his glove, but as a DH on an AL team, I think you take that. 49th all time on the home run list, 1 away from tying Duke Snider. So curious to see how he does next year and beyond even and if he gets to 500 or eventually 600.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Update 4-18-13:

    Ronald Torreyes - (Cubs minors) .500, 4 games, 4 hits, 8 at-bats, 4 walks

    Dave Sappelt - (Cubs) 19 at-bats, 1 hit, 6 K's

    Travis Wood - (Cubs) 1-1, 1.83 e.r.a., 3 starts, 19.2 IP, 13 hits, 13 K, 8 BB

    Juan Francisco - (Braves) - 39 at-bats, .333, 3 HR's, 10 K's, 2 BB, .930 OPS

    Brad Boxberger - triple A Padres - 9 IP, 13 K's, 2.00 e.r.a. 4 BB

    Yasmani Grandal - Padres - suspended

    Yonder Alonso - Padres - 55 at-bats, .309 average, 2 HR's, .844 OPs

    Edison Volquez - Padres - 0-3, 11.68 e.r.a., 12 IP, 21 hits, 9 K, 7 BB

    Paul Janish - triple A Braves - 3 games, .182 average

    Donnie Joseph - KC triple A - 5 games, 5 IP, 3 hits, 1.59 e.r.a., 11 K's, 5 BB

    JC Sulbaran - KC double A - 11.74 e.r.a., 2 starts, 7 IP, 10 earned runs

    Chris Dickerson - Baltimore - 3 at-bats, 1 pinch hit, .333

    Adam Rosales - Oakland high A ball - 1 game, 3 at-bats, 1 hit

    Jeremy Horst - Phillies - 8.10 e.r.a., 6.2 IP, 9 hits, 6 K, 3 BB

    Jonny Gomes - Boston 21 at-bats, 4 hits, 9 BB, .190

    Edwin Encarnacion - .232, 2 HR's, 15 games

    Zach Stewart - CWS triple A, 3 starts, 4.50 e.r.a., 16 IP, 20 hits, 13 K, 6 BB

    Josh Roenicke - Twins - 5 games, 1.17 e.r.a.

    Adam Dunn - White Sox - 14 games, .111 average, 2 HR's

    Chris Denorfia - Padres - .364, 1 HR, 14 games, .951 OPS

    Jeff Keppinger - White Sox - batting .183 in 60 at-bats

    Didi Gregorius - D'backs triple A - 7 games, .387, 2 HR's

    Drew Stubbs - Indians - 41 at-bats, .220

    Brandon Waring - no stats shown for 2013. May have retired.

    Norris Hopper - no stats shown for 2013. May have retired.

    Willy Taveras - KC - 17 games, 32 at-bats, batting .406
    Last edited by Vottomatic; 04-18-2013 at 03:33 PM. Reason: added Keppinger and others
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Thanks for putting that together.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    What? No Country Kepp?
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Adam Rosales in high A ball? were we that bad that year to have him play as much as he did? or is he coming off of injury?

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by coachpipe View Post
    Adam Rosales in high A ball? were we that bad that year to have him play as much as he did? or is he coming off of injury?
    I think he is on a rehab but not sure about that.

    Good list. But you know what, I wouldn't want any of them back. I'm happy with who we have now.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Didi Gregorious just got called up to the D'backs following Aaron Hill's injury.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post

    Willy Taveras - KC - 17 games, 32 at-bats, batting .406
    Where did you see this? All I'm finding is that he's hitting .106 at AAA Omaha.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed View Post
    Where did you see this? All I'm finding is that he's hitting .106 at AAA Omaha.
    Those were his Spring Training numbers. The .406 I mean.
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