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Thread: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Updates.
    Torreyes and Sappelt have started hitting better the past ten games and have both raised their averages into the mid .200's.
    Wood has been meh in his three starts.
    Grandal is still out with a hamstring injury.

    Juan Francisco hit HR #3 yesterday.
    http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/team/p...level='ALL'

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Torreyes' OPS is at .890 over the last 10 games. FSL is a pitcher's league, too.

    Still sorry we lost him.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    I wonder if Redszone1966 had a thread following Frank Robinson's stats.

    If so, that must have been especially painful.

    I sure hope Matt Latos doesn't turn into Milt Pappas.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Here we can track Milt Pappas as well.
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...appami01.shtml
    Milt certainly wasn't as good after the trade as he was before but he was a solid innings eater. His trade tot he Cubs also brought in Clay Carroll, Woody Woodward, and Tony Cloniger. Not saying it was a good trade but Milt wasn't terrible (25.4 WAR for rest of career). He just wasn't Robinson.(45.9 WAR rest of career).
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    Here we can track Milt Pappas as well.
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...appami01.shtml
    Milt certainly wasn't as good after the trade as he was before but he was a solid innings eater. His trade tot he Cubs also brought in Clay Carroll, Woody Woodward, and Tony Cloniger. Not saying it was a good trade but Milt wasn't terrible. He just wasn't Robinson.
    True, Pappas was a good pitcher before the trade, and had a very nice career, winning over 200 games. His 1967 Reds season was much better than 1966- maybe he felt the pressure of being traded for FRobby? After a poor start with the Reds in 1968, he was traded to the Atlanta Braves for the haul you mentioned above. He actually pitched very well for the Cubs in the early 70's.

    But perception becomes reality over time, and the Robby/Pappas-Baldshun-Simpson trade is considered to be one of the worst in Reds history.

    My previous post was tongue-in-cheek, and I only root for the best for Latos, and can't wait for his usual poor April to be over for him.

    Interesting, Pappas is ranked #101 all time pitcher on BR.com. Not too shabby. As you said though, he wasn't Frank Robinson.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Should we track Jeff Stevens too?

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Hey, how about Frank Duffy and Vern Geishert?
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Anybody keeping track of Wily Mo?
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Anybody keeping track of Wily Mo?
    This is what I could find- he is 9th in the Pacific League in BA. Best that I can tell he is Tied with Wladimir Balentien and two others for the HR lead and is second in the league with 21 k's. He is walking at a good clip too.
    http://www.japanball.com/stats.phtml

    9 Pena, WilyModesto (Hawks) 0.321 4 16 0.4 (OBP)
    Here is his Nippon League player page.
    http://bis.npb.or.jp/eng/players/93195135.html



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    2012	Sof	20	74	62	13	20	4	2	4	40	17	1	0	0	1	10	1	21	1	.323
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Speaking of former Reds, as infuriating as his D could be at times, I find it hard to believe that Felipe Lopez can't get a job in any of the 30 teams organizations. Granted his 2010 and 2011 seasons were pretty bad, but there are certainly significantly worse players still employed. He strikes me as the type who played best when you put him in the lineup and left him alone.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    I get the feeling FeLo is the type of player you don't want to put up with. Sure he's better than some current major leaguer, but he may give you more headaches than those other major leaguers.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    But perception becomes reality over time, and the Robby/Pappas-Baldshun-Simpson trade is considered to be one of the worst in Reds history.
    We traded Pappas for Clay Carroll.

    Simpson was traded for Alex Johnson.

    Johnson was flipped for Jim McGlothin, Pedro Borbon and Vern Ghieshert.

    Geishert and a Janish clone (Frank Duffy) brought us George Foster.

    The trade, in the end, turned out just fine.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    We traded Pappas for Clay Carroll.

    Simpson was traded for Alex Johnson.

    Johnson was flipped for Jim McGlothin, Pedro Borbon and Vern Ghieshert.

    Geishert and a Janish clone (Frank Duffy) brought us George Foster.

    The trade, in the end, turned out just fine.
    Stop making sense.

    RIP Jim McGlothlin, who passed at far too young an age.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    What's up with Danny Herrera?
    "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    What's up with Danny Herrera?
    Tommy John surgery.

    http://www.amazinavenue.com/2012/4/2...y-john-surgery
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