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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    How do you tear a ligament throwing a mile or so above the speed limit?

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    How do you tear a ligament throwing a mile or so above the speed limit?
    Mechanics. Overuse. Bad luck.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    How do you tear a ligament throwing a mile or so above the speed limit?


    Danny was never one to test the high end of a radar gun, that's for sure! I'd guess the injury came from throwing the screwball. I read somewhere that Carl Hubbell threw it until his arm was deformed.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by brad1176 View Post

    Danny was never one to test the high end of a radar gun, that's for sure! I'd guess the injury came from throwing the screwball. I read somewhere that Carl Hubbell threw it until his arm was deformed.
    Yet Mike Marshall swears that you can throw that pitch all day...

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Sitting at Camden Yards right now (amazing place to watch a game....just amazing) I am reminded of another ex-Reds player. I am sitting 40 ft from Edwin Encarnacion....first inning routine ground ball bobbled for an error. I looked at my son and said that is why he isn't wearing Red anymore. I just wish Rolen could hit.

    By the way.... Have I said how much I love this place. Honestly I have been a lot of new stadiums and this is my favorite. It is a classic. Also Stub Hub is awesome....picked up 3 tix for 40 each in the second row right beside dugout.

    Edit: couple of innings later couldn't make another play that while not as routine as first reminds you how good Rolen is....
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    Yet Mike Marshall swears that you can throw that pitch all day...
    In Marshall's defense, he's talking about completely changing pitching mechanics, not just throwing the screwball.

    He may be totally crazy.

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    As of 26 April:

    --Edinson Volquez has a 4.30 ERA and is leading the league in BBs with 15. His H/9 is exemplary at 7.4.
    --Yonder Alonso has brought his average up to 217. His BB:K ratio is solid (7:11), but he's showing little power (5 doubles, no HR, 3B). He leads all 1B in errors.
    --Yasmani Grandal is smoking the ball in AAA, with a .500 BA (and 1.277 OPS) in his first four games.
    --Brad Boxberger has an ERA over 6.00 in AAA and one save. He's striking out a ton, but has given up a BB for every inning he's thrown (7, in all).

    --Mat Latos has a 5.64 ERA in four starts, with more hits than IP and only 5.6 K/9.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    As of 26 April:

    Edinson Volquez has a 4.30 ERA and is leading the league in BBs with 15. His H/9 is exemplary at 7.4.
    Yonder Alonso has brought his average up to 217. His BB:K ratio is solid (7:11), but he's showing little power (5 doubles, no HR, 3B). He leads all 1B in errors.
    Yasmani Grandal is smoking the ball in AAA, with a .500 BA (and 1.277 OPS) in his first four games.
    Brad Boxberger has an ERA over 6.00 in AAA and one save. He's striking out a ton, but has given up a BB for every inning he's thrown (7, in all).

    Mat Latos has a 5.64 ERA in four starts, with more hits than IP and only 5.6 K/9.
    Way too early and small of a sample size, but it's looking like Volquez and Boxberger were not huge losses. They are the main two I was concerned about because they play positions that could have actually been helpful to this year's Reds squad.

    Alonso and Grandal, no matter what they do, really had and have nowhere to play. Nice to see Grandal raking in AAA, as long as Mesoraco does the same in the big leagues.

    Could Boxberger be the next Josh Roenicke? (At least Roenicke in Toronto- Roenicke in Colorado is actually looking like he could contribute).
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    As of 26 April:

    --Edinson Volquez has a 4.30 ERA and is leading the league in BBs with 15. His H/9 is exemplary at 7.4.
    --Yonder Alonso has brought his average up to 217. His BB:K ratio is solid (7:11), but he's showing little power (5 doubles, no HR, 3B). He leads all 1B in errors.
    --Yasmani Grandal is smoking the ball in AAA, with a .500 BA (and 1.277 OPS) in his first four games.
    --Brad Boxberger has an ERA over 6.00 in AAA and one save. He's striking out a ton, but has given up a BB for every inning he's thrown (7, in all).

    --Mat Latos has a 5.64 ERA in four starts, with more hits than IP and only 5.6 K/9.
    At least Latos is coming off an absolute gem and has a proven track record at The Show.

    The rub on Boxberger has always been the walks. I wonder if that will continue to haunt him.

    Volquez is and will always be a question mark. I'm just not sure he would be the best 5th starter the Reds go throw out this year. The bullpen would've been an interesting idea, but the walks would still be a concern no matter what.

    It's hard to measure too much about Alonso's power seeing as how he plays in Petco, but I think he will come around.

    Even though Grandal wasn't going to have a real place to play, I always felt he was going to decide who won or lost the trade. I'm not sure either way, but I had wished the Reds would have kept him back and used other players instead to complete the Latos trade. I think if they had held on to Grandal, they could've used him in another trade to fill other spots.

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    Volquez had a nice start tonight. 7 IP 3 h, 1 r, only one walk and 7 k's.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Ronald Torreyes is 10 for his last 22 with 3 walks and 1 k. Up to .276. After the early season slump, he's looking like his old self. Damn it.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Ronald Torreyes is 10 for his last 22 with 3 walks and 1 k. Up to .276. After the early season slump, he's looking like his old self. Damn it.
    With BP's extension, Cozart's hot start, and DiDi and Hamilton tearing it up in the minors, it doesn't really look like we have room for a middle infielder any time this decade anyway.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Ronald Torreyes is 10 for his last 22 with 3 walks and 1 k. Up to .276. After the early season slump, he's looking like his old self. Damn it.
    You're great Sir, but did you just cherry pick a small sample size?

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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    You're great Sir, but did you just cherry pick a small sample size?
    Well, anything this season is going to be a small sample isn't it? I just took his most recent games since he's broken out of his early season slump. Last 6 or 7 games IIRC.
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    Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    With BP's extension, Cozart's hot start, and DiDi and Hamilton tearing it up in the minors, it doesn't really look like we have room for a middle infielder any time this decade anyway.
    Our top prospects will be used to gain us a quality 3B and LF, most likely. And possibly another top pitcher like Latos.
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