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    Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties

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    Apparently Warren Sapp is saying Jeremy Shockey was the one who 'snitched'.
    How dare he!

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    Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    How dare he!
    The culture in sports doesn't look kindly on things like that. Rightly or wrongly, Shockey is going to have a hard time making friends around the league if people believe he is the guy who leaked the details.

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    Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties

    LOL @ Goodell.

    If you want to come and say you're angered by the lying, then go ahead and say that. But to say it's 'deplorable' or not 'accepted' in the NFL is incredulous. If they're legal hits, why are they getting fined? Everyone tries to hit everyone as hard as possible. Whether or not a DC rewards a team for legal hits doesn't matter.

    And I'll be patiently waiting for Mr. Goodell to fine the Bills and Redskins for the same thing that happened in New Orleans.

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    Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties

    I think Goodell is worried about the long term viability of the NFL.
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    Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    LOL @ Goodell.

    If you want to come and say you're angered by the lying, then go ahead and say that. But to say it's 'deplorable' or not 'accepted' in the NFL is incredulous. If they're legal hits, why are they getting fined? Everyone tries to hit everyone as hard as possible. Whether or not a DC rewards a team for legal hits doesn't matter.

    And I'll be patiently waiting for Mr. Goodell to fine the Bills and Redskins for the same thing that happened in New Orleans.
    The no bounty rule is posted in every locker room. This speaks to the integrity of the NFL and thwey have every right to defend their integrity.

    Detroit Lions defensive end Lawrence Jackson took a similar stance.

    In every locker room, its posted clearly: No exceptions to the rule on bounties for hurting people, he said at a sports conference in Boston Saturday. I just dont believe its right, on a human level.

    http://theadvocate.com/sports/saints...ocking-to.html
    If players ignored that sign, lied to the league investigators then they deserve whatever comes next when they're caught

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    Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties

    I'm surprised this didn't make it onto this thread, but Goodell has told teams that they have until March 30th to investigate their teams and report if a bounty program exists. If it isn't reported and found to be in place, the punishment is harsher.

    I think if this had been Belichick it would have been half the season. Hitting the Saints isn't going to cause as much of a crapstorm as if it had been in a major media market.
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    Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfaithful View Post
    I think Goodell is worried about the long term viability of the NFL.
    He better be. If insurers feel that football (not just the NFL) is not worth the risk to insure the participants, it's going to collapse like a house of cards.
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    Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties

    Would anybody really be surprised to find out such a program exists on almost every NFL team? though maybe not as brazen as the Saints did it.
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    Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    He better be. If insurers feel that football (not just the NFL) is not worth the risk to insure the participants, it's going to collapse like a house of cards.
    Yep. Really weird to think about, I'd hate to lose football, but I'm not sure it can really be made safe enough.
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    Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfaithful View Post
    Yep. Really weird to think about, I'd hate to lose football, but I'm not sure it can really be made safe enough.
    I agree. Same for boxing and racing (cars, motorcycles, etc). People die b/c of injuries suffered while doing all three of these things.

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    Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfaithful View Post
    Yep. Really weird to think about, I'd hate to lose football, but I'm not sure it can really be made safe enough.
    I don't think we will lose football in my lifetime. I think what Goddell has to do is make the game as safe as possible. Its ironic to listen to guys on the radio who have realized that you can make it doing other things in life, still talk about the desire to run through a brick wall to play football again. The NFL is just doing their best to make the game as safe as possible.

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    Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties

    I didn't think there was any real concern over it either, and I think it will always exist in some form, but if insurance companies stop insuring it'll become a secondary sport.

    The NFL will always be able to buy insurance, it's high schools and colleges that are going to get priced out. It'll only take a couple of successful class action lawsuits I think.
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    Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties

    I read a piece last year and now I can't find it. It mentioned the injury rates in rugby and football. There aren't nearly the numbers of serious injuries in rugby because of the lack of pads. It seems that the players know they're not protected so they tackle accordingly while all the padding gives football players a false sense of security and they hit much harder because of that. I'll try to find the article.
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    Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties

    Not the article I was thinking about, but still interesting.

    http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...027053,00.html
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    Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties

    Quote Originally Posted by OldRightHander View Post
    I read a piece last year and now I can't find it. It mentioned the injury rates in rugby and football. There aren't nearly the numbers of serious injuries in rugby because of the lack of pads. It seems that the players know they're not protected so they tackle accordingly while all the padding gives football players a false sense of security and they hit much harder because of that. I'll try to find the article.
    There was an article in the WSJ a couple of years ago about someone advocating the football be played without helmets to crack down on vicious hits.


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