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    Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    From the Reds twitter:

    #Reds acquire from Braves RHP J.J. Hoover in exchange for IF Juan Francisco. Hoover assigned to Louisville.

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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    Hoover is a 6'3" 215 pound RHP, 24 years old. Has a career 3.14 minor league ERA in 401 IP, with a 2.7 BB/9 and 9.5 K/9. Has started 61 of his 99 career games.

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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    The tall right-hander features a fastball in the 93-97 mph range and a curve and slider.
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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    John Sickels profiled Hoover in September and sounds pretty high on him. Sounds like the Reds did well.

    Hoover has the four classic pitches: fastball, curveball, slider, changeup. His heater is a tick above average in the low 90s, but works well due to the contrast with his secondary pitches. All three of his non-fastball offerings are rated as solid major league average. Although he doesn't have a genuine plus pitch, none of them are weak, arsenal is diverse, he mixes them well, throws strikes, and has been extremely durable in his career. He's maintained his strikeout rate and K/BB ratios at each level, and he's never had a serious injury. He is a strong fly ball pitcher, but doesn't give up an excessive number of home runs.

    For most teams, Hoover would profile as a solid number three or four starter, chewing up innings at a good clip with consistent performance. But the Braves see Hoover's path to the majors as clearing more quickly in the bullpen, and it is hard to argue with the results so far: he's been outstanding in that role in Triple-A. He's been named as one of Atlanta's representatives in the Arizona Fall League, one of the last stepping stones to the majors, and should compete for a relief job on the big league staff in 2012.
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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    BA has Hoover with the best slider among Braves prospects. Sorry to see JF go, but Reds seem to have acquired a quality pitching prospect.

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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    I don't think this is an isolated move...I think it says something more about Bailey and or Leake.
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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
    I don't think this is an isolated move...I think it says something more about Bailey and or Leake.
    I don't. I think it says they were ticked with Juan and this frees up the slot for Todd who they're higher on right now.
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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    I don't. I think it says they were ticked with Juan and this frees up the slot for Todd who they're higher on right now.
    Exactly. Plus, the Reds probably got a better player in return than they originally thought was possible.

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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    I imagine there were a lot of factors playing into this trade. Mostly, I believe Francisco's lack of options, Chipper Jones's injury, and Livan Hernandez signing with the Braves to a major league contract were factors 1-3.

    If he'd had options, he'd still be a Red in my opinion.
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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    Not a bad deal. Rolen better stay healthy.
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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    Interesting.

    Love the added pitching depth, but 3B is a little thin now.

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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Tucker View Post
    Interesting.

    Love the added pitching depth, but 3B is a little thin now.
    I dunno, JF was the 4th option at 3rd base IMO. If it's for a one game thing, most likely Cairo gets the call. If it's for longer mayber Frazier and/or Cairo.
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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    I hate this move.
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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    Hoover was a reliever last year. High strikeout rate, walks his share.

    Did well in the AA bullpen, went to AAA late in the season.

    Reds might have been down on JF, they got a quality arm for him, but a guy apparently slated for the bullpen.

    Hoover could be in Cincy before you know it with the holes in the Reds bullpen due to injury.

    I agree that we could see other moves today, possibly other trades.

    Also, Reds are so thin in lefty bats, wonder if this means that Willie Harris makes the team. Frazier had a good spring, but is another righty.

    I was a big JF fan, sorry he's gone, but Reds life goes on.

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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Hoover was a reliever last year. High strikeout rate, walks his share.

    Did well in the AA bullpen, went to AAA late in the season.

    Reds might have been down on JF, they got a quality arm for him, but a guy apparently slated for the bullpen.

    Hoover could be in Cincy before you know it with the holes in the Reds bullpen due to injury.

    I agree that we could see other moves today, possibly other trades.

    Also, Reds are so thin in lefty bats, wonder if this means that Willie Harris makes the team. Frazier had a good spring, but is another righty.
    As I understand it he was slated for the BP only to help his path to the MLB level...he is widely viewed as a MLB number 3-4 pitcher...adds good depth and he has OPTIONS.

    I don't think Homer will be with the Reds on opening day...just a gut feeling, I have no crystal ball or any sources, just thinking out loud.
    "Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."


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