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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    Quote Originally Posted by nux fan View Post
    leave me alone, I dont care a whit or an iota what you think
    Problem what I think is on target, you know it and it bugs the heck out of you...

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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    who had more homers this spring an out of shape francuisco or your wate of a garbage strikeout machine

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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    Quote Originally Posted by nux fan View Post
    who had more homers this spring an out of shape francuisco or your wate of a garbage strikeout machine
    I am not looking for Stubbs to be a Home run guy, that is part of the problem why he strikes out so much. How are okay with a guy coming into camp so out of shape and not ready to play? You can improve on strike out ratio, you can't improve laziness...

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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    you cannot improve stubbs he is a stubbornprima donna, you will see how productive is when francisco gets a chance, that is the last time I am responding to your useless inanities, stubbs failure to improve last year is mental laziness

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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    Quote Originally Posted by nux fan View Post
    you cannot improve stubbs he is a stubbornprima donna, you will see how productive is when francisco gets a chance, that is the last time I am responding to your useless inanities, stubbs failure to improve last year is mental laziness
    So he gets one year and that's it? How many chances has Juan been given and he shows up fat and out of shape? So instead of letting him continue to be a Red and just put Fraizer in AAA they traded him...hmm tells me that those in the know...knew what they had...

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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    Quote Originally Posted by nux fan View Post
    you cannot improve stubbs he is a stubbornprima donna, you will see how productive is when francisco gets a chance, that is the last time I am responding to your useless inanities, stubbs failure to improve last year is mental laziness
    Would that make him a 'Stubbs'born prima donna?
    Zero chance the Reds miss the playoffs!

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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    Francisco strikes out just the same, with an even more frightening walk rate and already mediocre defense. He's no more than a bench player.
    Choo got it, dude.

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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    if he is a bench player then subbs belongs in high school

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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    Hoover's numbers last year:

    2.64 ERA, 10.0 K/9, 3.4 K/BB,

    Hoover's numbers from the Futures game:

    1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K.

    And here's some quotes from a Braves board about Hoover, concerning the trade:

    "He would have likely been in the bullpen as early as late this season. He is a very, very solid right handed reliever."

    "Juan Francisco provides depth for the Braves while Chippity is out -- or if he even returns. But giving up JJ Hoover? That was a lot to give up. I would have given up Todd Redmond instead. JJ Hoover is going to be a pretty good middle of the rotation starter and/or middle reliever "

    "Everytime I walked into my local minor league stadium (Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs) last season JJ Hoover was on the board showing the International League stat leaders. And now we trade him for some guy that evidently showed up to Spring Training overweight and without having properly rehabilitated his leg issue in the offseason. "

    "117 strikeouts in 107 innings. 2.64 ERA. Hoover is a good pitcher. Francisco is one of the worst players that the Braves could get. They already have a power hitter who strikes out a lot."

    "Hoover was a top ten prospect for the Braves."

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    Re: Reds trade Juan Francisco to Braves for RHP J.J. Hoover

    Seems like the kid has a good upside. hopefully he can contribute to the bullpen sometime this year. i like the idea of fresh arms that can throw hard and strike people out come August/September.


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