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    Votto contract to be addressed at Wednesday press conference...

    According to one of Votto's reps on twitter. It didn't say a time, or anything like that, just thought i'd pass it along.

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    Re: Votto contract to be addressed at Wednesday press conference...

    They haven't given the exact details on the contract extension but they have already told us how they intend to pay for it.

    New team slogan: Hungry for a winner? VottO's!!!!! Big V. Little O. Go, Kid, Go!!! Coming soon to a Great American Ball Park concession stand near you.




    Why the apostrophe? No clue on that one.
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    Re: Votto contract to be addressed at Wednesday press conference...

    Joey Votto's 10-year, $225MM extension with the Reds is "one of the crazier seeming contracts in baseball history," writes Jon Heyman of CBS Sports. Heyman talks to several anonymous team executives about the contract, with theories ranging from the Reds being worried about the Dodgers' aggressive new ownership to the Reds being able to afford Votto thanks to several years of collecting luxury tax payments. Then again, one competing GM says simply, "The Reds look like they have no plan."
    Let's hope this isn't the case.
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    Re: Votto contract to be addressed at Wednesday press conference...

    That comment had to be from the Blue Jays GM

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    Re: Votto contract to be addressed at Wednesday press conference...

    Here's the truth: The Reds TV contract is speculated to pay them about 10 million a year. That's basically nothing. Unfortunately for the Reds, it appears that their current contract doesn't run out until 2016, leaving four more years before they can renegotiate...UNLESS they can talk Fox Sports into doing so earlier. One way to do this would be to say "If you don't give us a new contract now, we are jumping ship as soon as 2016 rolls around. We'll contact our friends up in Cleveland and see if they wouldn't mind expanding Sports Time Ohio, or at the very least begin to start our own network." OR both parties could come to a mutual agreement that, while teams like the Angels and Rangers are signing TV deals in the BILLIONS of dollars, the Reds won't be able to keep up. If FSN wants the Reds to be able to stay competitive and continue to drive in good ratings, they'll have to renegotiate now, or else their investment in the Redlegs gets weaker as time goes on and other teams financial situations blow them out of the water. Plus, denying the Reds a new deal now will leave a sour taste in Castellini's mouth, and may force him to go elsewhere the second the current contract comes to an end, whether he would say so to Fox or not. And Fox knows this.

    John Fay said earlier today (or maybe yesterday) that it's believed among the Reds front office that they'll reach the negotiating table before 2016. I also read that Votto's deal is heavier towards the back end, which means the Reds have taken into account their financial situation before and after the current contract is up. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case at all. They only have to pony up more than they really should on the payroll for four years, after that it's easy sailing if they get a deal anything like the Tigers (100 million a season) or Padres (75 million a season) recently have. And by the time 2016 rolls around, these deals will probably explode even further, allowing the Reds to rake in much more than they really should, considering their market size. I'm not concerned at all, and wouldn't doubt the Reds also extending Phillips, giving him deferred money after 2016.

    The "executives" around the league they're quoting obviously know nothing about the Reds situation or the situation of the NL Central. The Reds "have no plan"? They have recently taken a team that used to be a laughing stock and hasn't had a winning season in god knows how long into a winner. A team that two years ago won in the most crowded division in baseball against a power house Cardinals team, a big market Cubs team with endless cash and a heavily stocked Brewers team. And they didn't do it by going out and buying up other teams resources like they do on the east coast. They did it by drafting well, developing their talent in house and bringing those guys into the majors together. The media favorite Cardinals, Cubs and Brewers have faced set backs recently and the Reds have capitalized and plan to strike hard by locking up their #1 weapon: Joey Votto. One of he best hitters in baseball, a home grown superstar, a perennial MVP candidate who is he face of the franchise and has the potential to be a future Hall of Famer. And they've been making smart trades to improve the weak points of their roster to build a club around him. They have a ton of talent a few seasons away from the majors and have two very good, very young and very affordable top of the rotation starters who have the potential to be Cy Young caliber players very soon and have constructed a bullpen that, when healthy, matches up with any other team in the majors. And they've just now, in the past two days, broken the 100 million dollar payroll mark. That's not having a plan? Whoever this mystery GM is, he knows jack ****, can go **** himself and if I knew who he was, I'd print this off and mail it to him so he can realize how big of an idiot he is, if he can even read.
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    Re: Votto contract to be addressed at Wednesday press conference...

    Amen.. Good post bro. Tell em like it is

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    Re: Votto contract to be addressed at Wednesday press conference...

    Quote Originally Posted by joshua View Post
    Here's the truth: The Reds TV contract is speculated to pay them about 10 million a year. That's basically nothing. Unfortunately for the Reds, it appears that their current contract doesn't run out until 2016, leaving four more years before they can renegotiate...UNLESS they can talk Fox Sports into doing so earlier. One way to do this would be to say "If you don't give us a new contract now, we are jumping ship as soon as 2016 rolls around. We'll contact our friends up in Cleveland and see if they wouldn't mind expanding Sports Time Ohio, or at the very least begin to start our own network." OR both parties could come to a mutual agreement that, while teams like the Angels and Rangers are signing TV deals in the BILLIONS of dollars, the Reds won't be able to keep up. If FSN wants the Reds to be able to stay competitive and continue to drive in good ratings, they'll have to renegotiate now, or else their investment in the Redlegs gets weaker as time goes on and other teams financial situations blow them out of the water. Plus, denying the Reds a new deal now will leave a sour taste in Castellini's mouth, and may force him to go elsewhere the second the current contract comes to an end, whether he would say so to Fox or not. And Fox knows this.

    John Fay said earlier today (or maybe yesterday) that it's believed among the Reds front office that they'll reach the negotiating table before 2016. I also read that Votto's deal is heavier towards the back end, which means the Reds have taken into account their financial situation before and after the current contract is up. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case at all. They only have to pony up more than they really should on the payroll for four years, after that it's easy sailing if they get a deal anything like the Tigers (100 million a season) or Padres (75 million a season) recently have. And by the time 2016 rolls around, these deals will probably explode even further, allowing the Reds to rake in much more than they really should, considering their market size. I'm not concerned at all, and wouldn't doubt the Reds also extending Phillips, giving him deferred money after 2016.

    The "executives" around the league they're quoting obviously know nothing about the Reds situation or the situation of the NL Central. The Reds "have no plan"? They have recently taken a team that used to be a laughing stock and hasn't had a winning season in god knows how long into a winner. A team that two years ago won in the most crowded division in baseball against a power house Cardinals team, a big market Cubs team with endless cash and a heavily stocked Brewers team. And they didn't do it by going out and buying up other teams resources like they do on the east coast. They did it by drafting well, developing their talent in house and bringing those guys into the majors together. The media favorite Cardinals, Cubs and Brewers have faced set backs recently and the Reds have capitalized and plan to strike hard by locking up their #1 weapon: Joey Votto. One of he best hitters in baseball, a home grown superstar, a perennial MVP candidate who is he face of the franchise and has the potential to be a future Hall of Famer. And they've been making smart trades to improve the weak points of their roster to build a club around him. They have a ton of talent a few seasons away from the majors and have two very good, very young and very affordable top of the rotation starters who have the potential to be Cy Young caliber players very soon and have constructed a bullpen that, when healthy, matches up with any other team in the majors. And they've just now, in the past two days, broken the 100 million dollar payroll mark. That's not having a plan? Whoever this mystery GM is, he knows jack ****, can go **** himself and if I knew who he was, I'd print this off and mail it to him so he can realize how big of an idiot he is, if he can even read.
    Dude, you're a genious!!!!!!!! Great post

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    Re: Votto contract to be addressed at Wednesday press conference...

    Someone's fired up.

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    Re: Votto contract to be addressed at Wednesday press conference...

    Press conference will be at 6:05. WLW is probably your best chance to catch it.

    There is also a club option for 2024.

    Edit: Looks like it will also be streaming live on MLB.com.
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    I just hate GMs of other teams, teams with more money than us, tearing us down when we lock up one of the best players in baseball. If the Brewers got Fielder or the Cardinals got Pujols for the same amount of money they would say it's a sign of their commitment to their fans, a commitment to winning and shows loyalty to the players they've spent years developing and sends a message to the league that they're serious about contending long term. And on the flip side, if a team like the A's, Royals or Pirates turned around and grabbed someone like Votto in free agency for identical money, they would say they are showing that they're finally getting serious and looking to make a run at a World Series and are a team to watch out for.

    But for some reason when the Reds do it, it's a bad move. Is it a bad move to lock up the most popular player in the organization since Barry Larkin and make him a Red for life? Is it a bad move to pay market value for a player who's already won an MVP before he hits his prime years, is anything but a locker room cancer and puts up some of the best numbers in the game? Is it a bad move to cap off a series of good deals involving locking up Bruce and Cueto, gaining Marshall and Latos with a blockbuster deal to secure the middle of the lineup for a decade? Hell no it's not. Everyone knows it's not. And if it were another team, even a team in a worse situation than the Reds, it would be widely considered a good move to lock up home grown talent that drives people to the ballpark. Do they really think the Reds, or ANY team in baseball wouldn't benefit both on the field and financially from having Votto in their lineup from now until flying cars are invented in 2023? Hell no.

    Man, I'm pretty pissed hahaha.

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    Re: Votto contract to be addressed at Wednesday press conference...

    Quote Originally Posted by joshua View Post
    I just hate GMs of other teams, teams with more money than us, tearing us down when we lock up one of the best players in baseball. If the Brewers got Fielder or the Cardinals got Pujols for the same amount of money they would say it's a sign of their commitment to their fans, a commitment to winning and shows loyalty to the players they've spent years developing and sends a message to the league that they're serious about contending long term. And on the flip side, if a team like the A's, Royals or Pirates turned around and grabbed someone like Votto in free agency for identical money, they would say they are showing that they're finally getting serious and looking to make a run at a World Series and are a team to watch out for.

    But for some reason when the Reds do it, it's a bad move. Is it a bad move to lock up the most popular player in the organization since Barry Larkin and make him a Red for life? Is it a bad move to pay market value for a player who's already won an MVP before he hits his prime years, is anything but a locker room cancer and puts up some of the best numbers in the game? Is it a bad move to cap off a series of good deals involving locking up Bruce and Cueto, gaining Marshall and Latos with a blockbuster deal to secure the middle of the lineup for a decade? Hell no it's not. Everyone knows it's not. And if it were another team, even a team in a worse situation than the Reds, it would be widely considered a good move to lock up home grown talent that drives people to the ballpark. Do they really think the Reds, or ANY team in baseball wouldn't benefit both on the field and financially from having Votto in their lineup from now until flying cars are invented in 2023? Hell no.

    Man, I'm pretty pissed hahaha.

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    Re: Votto contract to be addressed at Wednesday press conference...

    Remind me not to quote any anonymous GMs in the future.

    For the record I am in favor of the Joey Votto deal. If it took going 10 years to get it done, so be it. That's a lot of MVP-level baseball they just signed on for.
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