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    Re: 4/8 - Reds vs Marlins

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    Re: 4/8 - Reds vs Marlins

    When I saw Bruce was leading off the 9th inning I knew he was going to homer. I should've posted it to make it offical
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    Re: 4/8 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Cozart hitting .545 with a 1.765 OPS. Small sample size?
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    Re: 4/8 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Pitch count is overrated. Innings is far more important. It's the amount of time you warm up, pitch, the sit down for 10-15 minutes that wears out your arm. Also the number of times theough an order is just as important.
    This is absolutely false. Theoretically, a guy can go 9 innings and throw 27 pitches. He could pitch the next day with a game like that. Who is more fresh, pitcher A who throws 9 innings, but does it in 90 pitches? Or pitcher B who throws 6, but throws 110. Innings pitched is far less important than pitches thrown because it fails to give you the whole picture. Its about how many pitches thrown, and the efficiency of which they're thrown.

    I get what you're saying overall in regards to getting up, sitting down, time between throwing, etc. But overall, number of pitches is far and away more important than innings thrown.
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    Re: 4/8 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by cincyinco View Post
    This is absolutely false. Theoretically, a guy can go 9 innings and throw 27 pitches. He could pitch the next day with a game like that. Who is more fresh, pitcher A who throws 9 innings, but does it in 90 pitches? Or pitcher B who throws 6, but throws 110. Innings pitched is far less important than pitches thrown because it fails to give you the whole picture. Its about how many pitches thrown, and the efficiency of which they're thrown.

    I get what you're saying overall in regards to getting up, sitting down, time between throwing, etc. But overall, number of pitches is far and away more important than innings thrown.
    The guy who went 9 innings would have thrown 162 pitches overall when you count his warm up pitches. The guy who went six with 110 would have thrown 148 pitches over all.

    I will agree that the efficiency of which they are thrown is very important as well. Pitching with a big lead is usually easier since you throw more fastballs. You are right, you do need to look at the whole picture.
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    Re: 4/8 - Reds vs Marlins

    I just got on here so sorry if it has been posted already.I really think Bruce and rolen saved Bakers butt today.I really thought he left Bronson in there one inning to late.I don't know what his pich count was but the marlins hit him hard off and on the whole game.Why is dusty already worring about his bullpen needing rest when its only the third game of the season?
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    Re: 4/8 - Reds vs Marlins

    So if we were members of Marlinszone, would we give Hanley grief about the games
    last play?

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    Came across a stat that said Hanigan makes contact with 98% of the strikes he swings at. Is that true?
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    Re: 4/8 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    So if we were members of Marlinszone, would we give Hanley grief about the games
    last play?
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    Re: 4/8 - Reds vs Marlins

    I wanted to second guess Baker on leaving Arroyo in too long also; but unless Arroyo... and pitchers and managers do talk in between innings .... communicated to Baker that he was out of gas, I had no problem with him going out for the 7th.

    He was pitching a pretty good game.... 6 innings, PC at approximately 75, 2 runs (1 unearned). Where I fault Dusty is not having someone throwing in the BP to start the 7th. Because as soon as Bronson hit the first batter (Dobbs), that's when I would have jerked him. But he couldn't immediately because he had no one warming up. So he had to continue to let Bronson throw - do some stalling - until Ondrusek was ready. IMO, that's where Dusty screwed up.

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    Re: 4/8 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Came across a stat that said Hanigan makes contact with 98% of the strikes he swings at. Is that true?
    According to Fangraphs, each of the past two seasons show a 2.5% swinging strike rate. So yes, that means that he's making contact with 97.5% of the pitches he swings at.
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    Re: 4/8 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by GAC View Post
    I wanted to second guess Baker on leaving Arroyo in too long also; but unless Arroyo... and pitchers and managers do talk in between innings .... communicated to Baker that he was out of gas, I had no problem with him going out for the 7th.

    He was pitching a pretty good game.... 6 innings, PC at approximately 75, 2 runs (1 unearned). Where I fault Dusty is not having someone throwing in the BP to start the 7th. Because as soon as Bronson hit the first batter (Dobbs), that's when I would have jerked him. But he couldn't immediately because he had no one warming up. So he had to continue to let Bronson throw - do some stalling - until Ondrusek was ready. IMO, that's where Dusty screwed up.

    But how about that Jay Bruce!
    Did Dusty address this in the post game?
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    Re: 4/8 - Reds vs Marlins

    I've heard Marty's call of the game winner, but I didn't hear Bruce's 2nd HR call. Anyone have a link for it?

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    Re: 4/8 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    So if we were members of Marlinszone, would we give Hanley grief about the games
    last play?
    I would have. Just a total give up. Nothing hurt by at least throwing towards the plate. If the runner falls down going to home you have a good chance at getting him. I think it shows what Ramirez is all about, IMO.
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    Re: 4/8 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    Bruce may just have that complete break out season this year. Last year was good but this one could be sensational.

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