Brantley for Stubbs

[EMAW]

A nugget of good news for the Stubbs haters I picked up at the Royals and Indians game tonight. I sit in the press box, thus do get to hear real baseball gossip rather than made up stuff. Reds and Indians have discussed a deal for disappointing outfielders. Personally could see it (if it happens) being an awful deal that is being set up by a 9 game into season panic situation. Checking with a few people I know, Dusty is likely retiring (he wants to be with his son the next few years) at the conclusion of the season. I assume when this happens you will hold a message board parade and the Reds will be a lock to go 162-0 next season.

[joshua]

What player are the Indians shipping over in this deal you just made up?

[Ironman92]

Reds fans would rid their frustration with Stubbs and Dusty. We've had quite the decade plus of cruddy managers.....the curse of Ron Oester?

[TheBigLebowski]

I'd be thrilled with this. I'd take a warm Hudepohl on a frosty cold winter's day in exchange for Stubbs.

[Joesh]

But then who would we blame if the Reds still suck

[joshua]

But then who would we blame if the Reds still suck

As long as it's not Corky Miller, you can blame whoever you want. xCorkyxRulzx

[EMAW]

What player are the Indians shipping over in this deal you just made up?

The deal is Michael Brantley for Stubbs
Brantley is a baseball player for a team called the Cleveland Indians
You are obviously a baseball expert

[wvreds]

I would take a bucket of balls for Stubbs, I say do it

[KySteveH]

The deal is Michael Brantley for Stubbs
Brantley is a baseball player for a team called the Cleveland Indians
You are obviously a baseball expert

That might have been clearer had you mentioned it in the body of your post. Terrible idea, BTW. No matter how much you dislike Stubbs, flipping him for Brantley is worse.

[improbus]

Stubbs had a 2.9 WAR last year. He was ranked above the following players in that category (w/ comparable At Bats)
Johnny Damon
Ryan Howard
Billy Butler
Michael Young
Torii Hunter
Carlos Pena
Jayson Werth
Dan Uggla
and....Jay Bruce

He's frustrating, but he does do alot of things. Also, where else are we going to find 25 HR's, 40 SB's, and Gold Glove defense for $450,000?

[malcontent]

Do it yesterday, Walt.

Last year Stubbs struck out 205 times in 681 PA.

In his minor league career, Brantley has K'd 218 times in 2477 PA, with an OBP of 0.388.

In a way, he's the anti-Stubbs. A leadoff hitter who actually makes contact and gets on base. And a LHH, which the Reds absolutely need more of.

Only 24, so his best should be yet to come.

Please, Universe, let this be true.

[Ohayou]

Stubbs had a 2.9 WAR last year. He was ranked above the following players in that category (w/ comparable At Bats)
Johnny Damon
Ryan Howard
Billy Butler
Michael Young
Torii Hunter
Carlos Pena
Jayson Werth
Dan Uggla
and....Jay Bruce

He's frustrating, but he does do alot of things. Also, where else are we going to find 25 HR's, 40 SB's, and Gold Glove defense for $450,000?

WAR doesn't put anything into proper context. It's just a number, a result of a formula concocted by someone who likely never picked up a bat or put on a glove and possibly never saw a full game. The individual, raw game stats, some of which make up WAR, put things in proper context.

I agree, though, Stubbs is worth having on your team. Certainly not for the amount of at bats he's given, but he IS useful.

[malcontent]

L Brantley
R Cozart
L Votto
R Phillips
L Bruce
R Ludwick
R Rolen
R Hanigan

If Walt could trade Stubbs for Brantley, and find another good LH bat to sub for Rolen the 40% of games that he's unavailable (uh, like Francisco), we've still got a chance.

Seriously, Rolen is a platoon guy these days.

[goreds2]

No way do I trade THE COWBOY for Stubbs.

[R_Webb18]

Stubbs had a 2.9 WAR last year. He was ranked above the following players in that category (w/ comparable At Bats)
Johnny Damon
Ryan Howard
Billy Butler
Michael Young
Torii Hunter
Carlos Pena
Jayson Werth
Dan Uggla
and....Jay Bruce

He's frustrating, but he does do alot of things. Also, where else are we going to find 25 HR's, 40 SB's, and Gold Glove defense for $450,000?

wait when did drew stubbs hit 25 hr's?