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    Re: Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

    Maybe we shouldn't have traded Francisco.

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    Re: Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    My logic is that everyone wants Heisey to start in front of Stubbs and what he makes up offensively is offset by his defense. We never hear about Heisey's K problem. . . nor has anyone barely mentioned Jay going 0-19.
    Not everyone. I'm still on the Stubbs bandwagon. I realize it isn't crowded, but I'm still on. I somehow remain convinced he'll cut down on his swing at some point and become a bigtime player, though I'm not as sure as I once was.
    "I talked to an advance scout that told me if Joey Votto and Albert Pujols were on the same team he'd advise his team to do the unthinkable...pitch around Votto to get to Pujols." - Buster Olney, ESPN

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    Re: Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    Thanks for the reply Dave. You're certainly full of it tonight too.
    Well it simply isn't logical to try to defend someone by attacking others. Sorry if you can't see that.
    Zero chance the Reds miss the playoffs!

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    Re: Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    And can't run. But that doesn't matter. He is the Reds' only option to hit 4th.
    he is a crappy clean up hitter

    .269 in 2011 & .239 in 2010

    He shined in the leadoff hole last season hitting .350

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    Re: Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    Well it simply isn't logical to try to defend someone by attacking others. Sorry if you can't see that.
    My point is that Stubbs and Heisey are essentially the same people and yet Heisey doesn't get the same flack because, for some reason, Reds fans like him.

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    Re: Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

    Just got home, I predicted the Reds would have 0 runs. I am some sort of genius

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    Re: Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

    Quote Originally Posted by The Rage View Post
    Maybe we shouldn't have traded Francisco.
    .263 2hr 4rbi

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    Re: Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

    Quote Originally Posted by Joesh View Post
    Just got home, I predicted the Reds would have 0 runs. I am some sort of genius
    Did you also predict that grass is green?

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    Re: Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

    Quote Originally Posted by Who Dey Time View Post
    Did you also predict that grass is green?
    I didn't want to go out on that far of a limb, only wanted to make a safe bet

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    Re: Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    So then you have no logic. Which is fine.
    Haha, it appears we have a slightly moody Dave tonight. Relax, buddy, we still have 150 games left. Hopefully not 150 like this one though.

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    Re: Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    My point is that Stubbs and Heisey are essentially the same people and yet Heisey doesn't get the same flack because, for some reason, Reds fans like him.
    mainly because Hi-C had 4 more HR and 6 more RBI in 325 less at bats than Stubbs last season

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    Re: Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    My point is that Stubbs and Heisey are essentially the same people and yet Heisey doesn't get the same flack because, for some reason, Reds fans like him.
    They might have a similar K rate, but they aren't similar players.
    "I talked to an advance scout that told me if Joey Votto and Albert Pujols were on the same team he'd advise his team to do the unthinkable...pitch around Votto to get to Pujols." - Buster Olney, ESPN

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    Re: Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

    Quote Originally Posted by New York Red View Post
    They might have a similar K rate, but they aren't similar players.
    Isn't the only reason people hate Stubbs is because he K's so much?

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    Re: Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    My point is that Stubbs and Heisey are essentially the same people and yet Heisey doesn't get the same flack because, for some reason, Reds fans like him.
    Heisey is a good PH and has some pop.
    Stubbs has totally lost his power. If he fouls one or hits a dribbler, that's more than I expect...

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    Re: Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    Isn't the only reason people hate Stubbs is because he K's so much?
    and the fact he only had 4hr and 12 RBI while hitting .233 in the 2nd half last season


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