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    Logan Ondrusek Thread

    I really like this pitcher and have for some time now. He's consistent and has slowly worked his way back into the late innings after an injured and poor second half last year.

    His strikeout of Soriano today was an important out in the ballgame. His numbers are not fantastic, although his ERA is zero, but I still like him very much.

    As a former starter he can pitch two innings. He's also closed in the minors so he can give you a good inning toward the end of the game. He seems to do well in pressure spots.

    Some folks on here don't like him, so I'm probably picking an argument here, but I'm a Logan fan.

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    I've always been a big fan of Logan.

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    He gets the job done. Not likely gonna be an all-star [as arbitrary as that can be] but he's effective when called upon. Thats what you want in a pen, guys who do their job and bring that lunchpail mentality.

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    Like him a lot. Probably never be a name player, but every team needs a guy or two like him in their pen.

    Since I don't believe in the "your best guy should be the closer" theory, I wouldn't mind if he was closing, with Marshall being used in higher leverage situations as they happen.

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    I was only ever down on him for a bit last year when he was being run out there every night along with Masset by Dusty and they would proceed to get their brains beaten in. I think he is a perfectly good bullpen arm.
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    I like his stuff. And I like calling him Logan From the Ozarks
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    We could start a Fan Club and call it "Logan's Heroes"...


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    I've never understood the criticism of the guy. Huge jam to get out of. Nicely done.
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    I like him too. He almost always gets the job done. He was just way overused last season was the big reason he was inconsistent at times. Which was no fault of his. In fact I think he could be a closer if givent the opportunity.
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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    Bullpen is terrific as is, but I just wonder if Logan might fit the closer role better than Marshall.

    Logan closed much in the minors.

    Marshall is a great set up man, not sure how comfortable he is as the closer. He relies heavily on that curve ball, it can hang once in awhile.

    I'm probably overrating Ondrusek, but he sure has been nails so far this season. Just a thought.

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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Bullpen is terrific as is, but I just wonder if Logan might fit the closer role better than Marshall.

    Logan closed much in the minors.

    Marshall is a great set up man, not sure how comfortable he is as the closer. He relies heavily on that curve ball, it can hang once in awhile.

    I'm probably overrating Ondrusek, but he sure has been nails so far this season. Just a thought.
    I'm confused. Do curveballs not work as in the 9th inning?
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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    I'm confused. Do curveballs not work as in the 9th inning?
    Curve balls work, but Sean relies so heavily on that one pitch. Against righties, he can hang it once in awhile.

    Sean is an unusual type closer, most of them are more willing to rely on the fastball. Today, Sean really didn't seem to want to use his fastball much.

    I don't know, we'll see how it goes, but as someone said in the game thread today, Sean may be more effective setting up.

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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Curve balls work, but Sean relies so heavily on that one pitch. Against righties, he can hang it once in awhile.

    Sean is an unusual type closer, most of them are more willing to rely on the fastball. Today, Sean really didn't seem to want to use his fastball much.

    I don't know, we'll see how it goes, but as someone said in the game thread today, Sean may be more effective setting up.
    I still don't follow your logic here. I understand the point regarding mixing up his pitches, but what does that have to do with closing vs. setting up? His splits suggest that while he's better against lefties, he's not exactly bad vR.

    Or put differently, how does Ondrusek or Arredondo's vR comprare to Marshall's vR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    I still don't follow your logic here. I understand the point regarding mixing up his pitches, but what does that have to do with closing vs. setting up? His splits suggest that while he's better against lefties, he's not exactly bad vR.

    Or put differently, how does Ondrusek or Arredondo's vR comprare to Marshall's vR?
    Not speaking for him, but it's obvious Sean is not a prototypical closer isn't it?
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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    I just wonder if Sean loses the "sharpness/feel" of his breaking ball only pitching 1-2 innings a week? He's used to getting more work than what he has been since moving to closer. With 3 RH coming up to start the 9th, I would have considered going to Ondrusek anyway. Great job of clutch pitching by Logan to lock up a very nice win.
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