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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    Maybe JJ Hoover missed the first page. Let's try again. Paging JJ Hoover, paging JJ Hoover.

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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    Stop the Ondrusek, I want to get off.
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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    I bet Masset will replace Ondrusek before too long.

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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    Guy gives up a solo homer and this thread gets bumped. We should have a thread for every player to complain when something bad happens.
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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    Yeah, I didn't see the Simon, Lecure, and Redmond threads light up.
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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    Guy gives up a solo homer and this thread gets bumped. We should have a thread for every player to complain when something bad happens.
    Right. Because it's just the one home run that people are upset about.

    Here is Logan's FIP by month. It's pretty amazing.

    April: 2.37
    May: 6.29
    June: 5.80
    July: 4.29
    August: 8.82 (not sure if that includes tonight or not)

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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    Forget Hoover. Just send Ondrusek down when Votto comes back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    Right. Because it's just the one home run that people are upset about.

    Here is Logan's FIP by month. It's pretty amazing.

    April: 2.37
    May: 6.29
    June: 5.80
    July: 4.29
    August: 8.82 (not sure if that includes tonight or not)
    So people are upset with him because a metric states that he will likey be less effective at some point in the future? With an ERA around 3.40 over 178 career games, that's not bad.

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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    So people are upset with him because a metric states that he will likey be less effective at some point in the future? With an ERA around 3.40 over 178 career games, that's not bad.
    ERA is good. But when he comes into the game, I have no faith in him. Call me crazy, but when a pitcher, particularly a reliever, doesn't have control AND he doesn't strike guys out, I get really nervous about him being on the mound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    So people are upset with him because a metric states that he will likey be less effective at some point in the future? With an ERA around 3.40 over 178 career games, that's not bad.
    Do you think he's a good pitcher that should continue to get opportunities to pitch in close games? Is he a guy you want the Reds to turn to in the postseason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    ERA is good. But when he comes into the game, I have no faith in him. Call me crazy, but when a pitcher, particularly a reliever, doesn't have control AND he doesn't strike guys out, I get really nervous about him being on the mound.
    I just find it odd that some are upset with a guy who has been an effective pitcher for his career. He gets the same venom as guys like Valdez and the like because of a metric that is supposedly more predictive than ERA. And maybe it is. But we shouldn't be acting like the guy has been blowing games for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    Do you think he's a good pitcher that should continue to get opportunities to pitch in close games? Is he a guy you want the Reds to turn to in the postseason?
    He is 4th in line in the pen. I don't see that as being awful.

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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    He is 4th in line in the pen. I don't see that as being awful.
    You think he's the Reds fourth best reliever??

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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    You think he's the Reds fourth best reliever??
    I think he is used as 4th in line at this time. 4th or 5th, with Wild Jose in the mix.

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    Re: Logan Ondrusek Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    I think he is used as 4th in line at this time. 4th or 5th, with Wild Jose in the mix.
    Wild Jose walks .43 more guys per 9 than Ondrusek does, while striking out 3.27 more batters per 9.

    Regardless of where he is "used at this time," I still don't believe you've answered the question. Do you think he's the fourth best reliever on this team?


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