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    Re: Nationals recall Bryce Harper

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Oh, I know some of the things. I also know that they were done by a kid who was the age of a high schooler. Darn near everyone has a story or five about something they did in high school that never got outside of a small group of people because they did it in high school and no one ever paid attention to it outside of that small town/school/rival school.

    Again, we would all look like jerks if we had cameras on us at age 17-19. All of us. But most of us aren't, we were just teenagers who had swings of emotion and immaturity, because we were teenagers.
    Most of the minor leaguers, and college athletes are teenagers. Cameras and the press follow them. Where are all the stories of them being jerks? Now many of them have their own name tattooed on their torso?
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    Re: Nationals recall Bryce Harper

    He's 19. Aren't all 19 year olds a bit immature? If he's still acting out at 25, then I'll consider tagging him with the jerk moniker.
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    Re: Nationals recall Bryce Harper

    Even A-Rod, who was a first round overall pick and came up as a teenager, didn't have these type of stories following him when he came up, and A-Rod is still a jerk.
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    Re: Nationals recall Bryce Harper

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    Even A-Rod, who was a first round overall pick and came up as a teenager, didn't have these type of stories following him when he came up, and A-Rod is still a jerk.
    The internet didn't exist in 1991-1993 when Arod was 16-18. Ok, it existed, but not like this. The press didn't cover him like this either. Not even close.

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    Re: Nationals recall Bryce Harper

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    Most of the minor leaguers, and college athletes are teenagers. Cameras and the press follow them. Where are all the stories of them being jerks? Now many of them have their own name tattooed on their torso?
    Most minor leaguers are 19+. Bryce Harper is just now 19. No one was covered in high school like Harper was. No one ever, at least in this sport. No one was covered in college like Harper was, at least in this sport.

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    I've seen quite a bit in my career but the exploits of Harper are minor compared to the exploits of Aaron Boone, Adam Dunn, Austin Kearns and a few select others on a near nightly basis at Have a Nice Day cafe and JAPS in downtown Cincinnati several years ago. Were cameras following them? No. Would you classify their behavior as young guys just having fun? Probably. Even though they crossed the line on more than one occasion I would just say they are privileged athletes. Harper is cocky. Good for him. I don't have issue with that. Has he done things he regrets. No doubt, just as all of us have.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
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    Re: Nationals recall Bryce Harper

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    The internet didn't exist in 1991-1993 when Arod was 16-18. Ok, it existed, but not like this. The press didn't cover him like this either. Not even close.
    If only there existed some way to convey information before the Internet.
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    If only there existed some way to convey information before the Internet.
    There was. But the difference is, everyone is a reporter now, instead of a privileged few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    There was. But the difference is, everyone is a reporter now, instead of a privileged few.
    If any player blew a kiss to a pitcher after he hit a homer in 1909, the press would have been all over it.
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    If any player blew a kiss to a pitcher after he hit a homer in 1909, the press would have been all over it.
    Not in the minor leagues they wouldn't. Because no one covered it. Just like they didn't in 1993, or even 2003 for the most part.

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    Not in the minor leagues they wouldn't. Because no one covered it. Just like they didn't in 1993, or even 2003 for the most part.
    I was reading Baseball America in High School, in the early 80's. They would have reported it, big time.

    And even if you go with your Internet theory, it's been around for around 15 years now. That's thousands of players that have been covered by it. How many players have been revealed as jerks during that time?
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    I was reading Baseball America in High School, in the early 80's. They would have reported it, big time.

    And even if you go with your Internet theory, it's been around for around 15 years now. That's thousands of players that have been covered by it. How many players have been revealed as jerks during that time?
    Yes, BA was around. But the amount of information wasn't. BA gets almost all of their information from other sources. They don't have their own scouts. They are reporters who work in North Carolina and get a lot of their information from other places. It isn't close to the same now as it was back then. It would have gone un-reported. Until 1983, BA was working out of Canada. I am sure they were all over the attitudes of players.

    And yes, the internet has been around for about 20 years now. Again, that is great, but the amount of coverage available of things isn't close to the same now as it was then, or even in 2005. Everyone has the internet on their phone today. If they see something, they tweet it. They post it to facebook. It spreads like wildfires. That didn't happen in 2005, much less 1995. Comparing the coverage of minor league baseball now to the coverage of it at any other time in history is crazy. It isn't even close. There used to be one publication that covered it. Now there are 20 and a slew of dedicated team websites out there as well. That cover it every single day instead of a once a month publication.

    Quick, name the player who threw a fastball into the stands in Dayton and hit a fan. I bet you can't without looking it up. But you can tell me the name of Bryce Harper, who has never done anything close to that.

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    Re: Nationals recall Bryce Harper

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Yes, BA was around. But the amount of information wasn't. BA gets almost all of their information from other sources. They don't have their own scouts. They are reporters who work in North Carolina and get a lot of their information from other places. It isn't close to the same now as it was back then. It would have gone un-reported. Until 1983, BA was working out of Canada. I am sure they were all over the attitudes of players.

    And yes, the internet has been around for about 20 years now. Again, that is great, but the amount of coverage available of things isn't close to the same now as it was then, or even in 2005. Everyone has the internet on their phone today. If they see something, they tweet it. They post it to facebook. It spreads like wildfires. That didn't happen in 2005, much less 1995. Comparing the coverage of minor league baseball now to the coverage of it at any other time in history is crazy. It isn't even close. There used to be one publication that covered it. Now there are 20 and a slew of dedicated team websites out there as well. That cover it every single day instead of a once a month publication.

    Quick, name the player who threw a fastball into the stands in Dayton and hit a fan. I bet you can't without looking it up. But you can tell me the name of Bryce Harper, who has never done anything close to that.
    That's not a jerk, that guy is a criminal.

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    Re: Nationals recall Bryce Harper

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    That's not a jerk, that guy is a criminal.
    Even still, no one here can name that guy. But everyone can name a kid who blew a kiss to a pitcher.

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    Re: Nationals recall Bryce Harper

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Even still, no one here can name that guy. But everyone can name a kid who blew a kiss to a pitcher.
    And I don't see the issue with that.


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