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    Re: 5/2/2012 Reds vs Little Bears

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    I say move Phillips back to leadoff, Cozart to 2nd, Stubbs to cleanup
    Do you want Votto to walk 900 times?
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    Re: 5/2/2012 Reds vs Little Bears

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    I say move Phillips back to leadoff, Cozart to 2nd, Stubbs to cleanup
    I agree with Brandon to leadoff. As for the 2 hole, I'd like to see a rotation of sorts with Cozart & Stubbs. When not in the 2 hole, lower in the order...like 7 or 8.

    Cleanup...I want to see Hanigan & Mesoraco there.
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    Re: 5/2/2012 Reds vs Little Bears

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    I agree with Brandon to leadoff. As for the 2 hole, I'd like to see a rotation of sorts with Cozart & Stubbs. When not in the 2 hole, lower in the order...like 7 or 8.

    Cleanup...I want to see Hanigan & Mesoraco there.
    Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
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    Re: 5/2/2012 Reds vs Little Bears

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    Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
    My exact reaction.
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    Re: 5/2/2012 Reds vs Little Bears

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    Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
    Yep. He doesn't have the power, but he's got excellent on base skills, plate disciple and he makes excellent contact. He's a VERY tough out in general. Plus Mesoraco just looks like a middle of the order bat in the making. Putting them both there just keeps the rest of the lineup stable as Dusty obviously loves doing.

    Personally, I've got no problem with it being Votto & Bruce back to back 3/4 but Dusty seems to be obviously opposed to that idea unless he's got no other options. So if that idea is off the table...I'd like to see the tough out there.
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    Re: 5/2/2012 Reds vs Little Bears

    Bruce is going to homer soon
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    Re: 5/2/2012 Reds vs Little Bears

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Yep. He doesn't have the power, but he's got excellent on base skills, plate disciple and he makes excellent contact. He's a VERY tough out in general. Plus Mesoraco just looks like a middle of the order bat in the making. Putting them both there just keeps the rest of the lineup stable as Dusty obviously loves doing.
    You want the guy with the .735 career OPS, .714 last year, and .657 this year to protect Votto? Again, do you want him to walk 900 times?

    You could always bat your second best hitter (Bruce) 4th, but I guess that makes too much sense.
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    Re: 5/2/2012 Reds vs Little Bears

    I think the offensive roster needs an overhaul. Third, LF, and CF needs to be addressed with big bats. Then put Stubbs, Rolen, etc in for defense and spot starting. Lots of guys can hit. We could find these bats.
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    Re: 5/2/2012 Reds vs Little Bears

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    You want the guy with the .735 career OPS, .714 last year, and .657 last year to protect Votto? Again, do you want him to walk 900 times?

    You could always bat your second best hitter (Bruce) 4th, but I guess that makes too much sense.
    I don't see Dusty hitting Votto & Bruce back to back very often. So I'm thinking outside of the box with that option off the table.

    As I said, Hanny doesn't have power, but he also isn't a strikeout waiting to happen...or a DP.

    Stubbs is a high K chance no matter where you put him. Phillips just alters his approach too much in the cleanup role. We know how Rolen is there. The options are just too limited, so thinking outside of the box might just be the answer.
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    Re: 5/2/2012 Reds vs Little Bears

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    I don't see Dusty hitting Votto & Bruce back to back very often. So I'm thinking outside of the box with that option off the table.

    As I said, Hanny doesn't have power, but he also isn't a strikeout waiting to happen...or a DP.

    Stubbs is a high K chance no matter where you put him. Phillips just alters his approach too much in the cleanup role. We know how Rolen is there. The options are just too limited, so thinking outside of the box might just be the answer.
    A slow guy who strikes out very little isn't a DP waiting to happen?

    EDIT: Wow, I'm surprised how little he's grounded into DPs in his career.
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    Re: 5/2/2012 Reds vs Little Bears

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    A slow guy who strikes out very little isn't a DP waiting to happen?

    EDIT: Wow, I'm surprised how little he's grounded into DPs in his career.
    I was just going to suggest you look into how often he's really doubled up. It's a RARITY.
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    Re: 5/2/2012 Reds vs Little Bears

    No one is on in front of him. Rarely anyhow. Most of his career, he batted 8th.
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    Re: 5/2/2012 Reds vs Little Bears

    Just try and get to Marmol at this point. Then anything can happen.
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    Re: 5/2/2012 Reds vs Little Bears

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    No one is on in front of him.
    Not true either.
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    Re: 5/2/2012 Reds vs Little Bears

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    No one is on in front of him.
    Yeah, I have to think that has more to do with this then anything. When you're THAT slow and you put the ball in play that much, you are a DP waiting to happen.
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