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    5/3/12 - Reds vs Cubs

    Everyone is going to love this lineup:

    Reds lineup:

    Heisey 8
    Harris 5
    Votto 3
    Phillips 4
    Bruce 9
    Ludwick 7
    Mesoraco 2
    Valdez 6
    Bailey 1

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    Re: 5/3/12 - Reds vs Cubs

    I have no problem with giving Stubbs and Cozy days off as they're scuffling. Rolen takes 'em all the time, and could certainly use one also. Mes needs to play more as it is.

    But for the love of God... FREE FRAZIER!!

    EDIT: Even if Dusty's man-love for Harris compels him to play him today, put him in CF. Heisey could sure use a day off too.
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    Re: 5/3/12 - Reds vs Cubs

    Well that is different.

    Cubs lineup
    DeJesus rf,
    Barney 2b,
    Castro ss,
    LaHair 1b,
    Soriano lf,
    Stewart 3b,
    Johnson cf,
    Soto c,
    Dempster p

    Makes some sense to play Harris and Valdez today to get them some time before Cairo comes back. I wonder if they are playing for jobs at this point or if they will just send Frazier down again when Cairo is ready.
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    Re: 5/3/12 - Reds vs Cubs

    I sure would have liked Frazier at third instead of Harris....

    vs. righties in 2012 (small sample sizes):

    Frazier is .222/.417/.444 for an OPS of .861.
    Harris is .097/.125/.161 for an OPS of .286.

    Of course, Harris may have a killer day against Dempster today. Lifetime, Willie is hitting .429 (3 for 7) against Dempster.
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    Re: 5/3/12 - Reds vs Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    Well that is different.

    Cubs lineup
    DeJesus rf,
    Barney 2b,
    Castro ss,
    LaHair 1b,
    Soriano lf,
    Stewart 3b,
    Johnson cf,
    Soto c,
    Dempster p

    Makes some sense to play Harris and Valdez today to get them some time before Cairo comes back. I wonder if they are playing for jobs at this point or if they will just send Frazier down again when Cairo is ready.
    I really hope that the front office sees enough in Frazier to realize that having both Harris and Valdez on the roster is ridiculous.
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    Re: 5/3/12 - Reds vs Cubs

    What a horrid lineup! Bailey had better pich a gem today. Also if Rolen can't play today after having three straight off days from Sunday to Tuesday then he needs to retire now. Put Frazier in and see what he can do on a regular basis.
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    Re: 5/3/12 - Reds vs Cubs

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    I really hope that the front office sees enough in Frazier to realize that having both Harris and Valdez on the roster is ridiculous.
    You talking about the same Todd Frazier who had a .654 OPS against right handers in the majors, 95 PAs, for the Reds last season?

    Why is he a good choice against Dempster?

    I assume it is based on minor league numbers.

    Harris and Valdez are veterans who should get a chance to play once in awhile. Nothing wrong with it.

    Frazier is a RedsZone darling. I hope he succeeds, but I don't see the compelling need to play him against Dempster. Don't see the need for this particular game.

    Now, if somebody wants to give Todd an extended trial at third base for a month or two, then I could see him playing in a game like this. I just don't see the matchup with Dempster.

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    Re: 5/3/12 - Reds vs Cubs

    I do not fashion myself a lineup complainer. However.....

    This is bad.
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    Re: 5/3/12 - Reds vs Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    You talking about the same Todd Frazier who had a .654 OPS against right handers in the majors, 95 PAs, for the Reds last season?

    Why is he a good choice against Dempster?

    I assume it is based on minor league numbers.

    Harris and Valdez are veterans who should get a chance to play once in awhile. Nothing wrong with it.

    Frazier is a RedsZone darling. I hope he succeeds, but I don't see the compelling need to play him against Dempster. Don't see the need for this particular game.

    Now, if somebody wants to give Todd an extended trial at third base for a month or two, then I could see him playing in a game like this. I just don't see the matchup with Dempster.
    I probably made my position sound more strongly than it is- Frazier has shown great plate discipline, good power, and an ability to start or come off the bench and produce in this young season. He also did well last year, posting a .727 OPS in limited playing time even with a .253 BABIP. I think he could be an upgrade to the current roster, and I think that the lowest two men on the totem pole are Harris (who I am no fan of, at all as of right now) and Valdez.

    Regarding his poor OPS vs RH last year, he had a .203 BABIP against RH. So, I would expect increased production. Furthermore, I see very little upside to having both Valdez and Harris in the lineup, as neither can hit especially well.

    In short, I think that Frazier should stay and that either Harris or Valdez should get the red note in their locker. But that's just me.
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    Re: 5/3/12 - Reds vs Cubs

    I think this is the least popular lineup yet. And that's a tough category. Baker: "You've got to get some guys playing time." #reds
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    Re: 5/3/12 - Reds vs Cubs

    No TV today, right?

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    Re: 5/3/12 - Reds vs Cubs

    Actually I see that it says the Cubs have a TV feed on CSN. Any way we can get that at bars in Cincy?

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    Re: 5/3/12 - Reds vs Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Edd Roush View Post
    No TV today, right?
    yes that is right no local TV

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    Re: 5/3/12 - Reds vs Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Edd Roush View Post
    No TV today, right?
    Not sure I can bring myself to even listen, let alone watch.

    Ok, I can't back that up but this lineup is confusing.

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    Re: 5/3/12 - Reds vs Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Edd Roush View Post
    Actually I see that it says the Cubs have a TV feed on CSN. Any way we can get that at bars in Cincy?
    I doubt any local bars can get it. It will be blacked out locally


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