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    Current odds from one online sportsbook....

    Odds to win the 2012-2013 Men's NCAA Basketball Championship
    All wagers have action

    Kentucky

    13/2

    Indiana

    8/1

    Louisville

    17/2

    UCLA

    12/1

    North Carolina

    14/1

    Duke

    18/1

    Kansas

    20/1

    Michigan

    20/1

    North Carolina State

    20/1

    Ohio State

    20/1

    Syracuse

    20/1

    Arizona

    25/1

    Florida

    25/1

    Florida State

    25/1

    Michigan State

    25/1

    Missouri

    30/1

    Memphis

    35/1

    UNLV

    35/1

    Stanford

    40/1

    Texas

    40/1

    Baylor

    50/1

    Cincinnati

    50/1

    Creighton

    50/1

    Georgetown

    50/1

    San Diego State

    50/1

    Tennessee

    50/1

    Wisconsin

    50/1

    Gonzaga

    55/1

    Pittsburgh

    60/1

    Alabama

    65/1

    Minnesota

    65/1

    Notre Dame

    65/1

    St. John's

    65/1

    Butler

    75/1

    California

    75/1

    Kansas State

    75/1

    Marquette

    75/1

    St. Louis

    75/1

    Texas A&M

    75/1

    VCU

    75/1

    Wichita State

    75/1

    Davidson
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Re: UK Basketball 8th Edition

    It cut off. I am desperate to know what Davidson's odds of winning it all are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    Fortunately for UK they're not playing teams from last year or two years ago.

    Saying the ceiling for a preseason top 3 team is the sweet 16 isn't logical.
    Never said it was. Their ceiling is national champ.

    Their likely spot, IMO, is much lower than their pre-season ranking.

    The ranking is as much about how little talent is left in CBB and Calipari's coaching acumen with young players as it is about the team itself. IMO, this team is short athletically (5 great athletes, little else), on the bench (nobody to count on and two 50/50 guys) and shooting (only Wiltjer is a knock-down guy). Not only that, this may be the first Calipari team that will be outside the top 20 in total defense, as Wiltjer's not good, Noel and Cauley-Stein are freshmen, Poythress has a questionable motor, and Harrow is short and slight.

    Calipari says they'll run, run, run. I hope so. I love when teams do that. I think they'll be fun to watch play the DDMO, especially with Wiltjer camped in the corner. They could score 80+ a game just about every game. But they'll struggle, IMO, to stop anyone. Especially early. And once teams in the SEC slow it down (and they will), I don't know who'll end up able to score one on one.
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    That's a reasonable take, Scrap.

    Those guys in Vegas weren't able to build those big hotels by not knowing how to set a line, however.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Harrisons committing tomorrow.

    And I'll hold judgement across the board on the shooters until I see how Mays does in Rupp.

    Anyone can shoot at Wright State in games that don't matter. But we've seen guys like Barbour, Carrier, etc, who flat out were TERRIBLE with any sort of pressure on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Never said it was. Their ceiling is national champ.

    Their likely spot, IMO, is much lower than their pre-season ranking.

    The ranking is as much about how little talent is left in CBB and Calipari's coaching acumen with young players as it is about the team itself. IMO, this team is short athletically (5 great athletes, little else), on the bench (nobody to count on and two 50/50 guys) and shooting (only Wiltjer is a knock-down guy). Not only that, this may be the first Calipari team that will be outside the top 20 in total defense, as Wiltjer's not good, Noel and Cauley-Stein are freshmen, Poythress has a questionable motor, and Harrow is short and slight.

    Calipari says they'll run, run, run. I hope so. I love when teams do that. I think they'll be fun to watch play the DDMO, especially with Wiltjer camped in the corner. They could score 80+ a game just about every game. But they'll struggle, IMO, to stop anyone. Especially early. And once teams in the SEC slow it down (and they will), I don't know who'll end up able to score one on one.
    I tend to agree with Scrap.

    I will make one prediction though, I do think by the end of the season Archie Goodwin will be your starting PG. I can actually see a lineup of Archie, Poythress, Wiltjer, Nerlens, and WCS on a given night.

    Sounds like the Harrison twins are announcing for Kentucky today as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    I tend to agree with Scrap.

    I will make one prediction though, I do think by the end of the season Archie Goodwin will be your starting PG. I can actually see a lineup of Archie, Poythress, Wiltjer, Nerlens, and WCS on a given night.

    Sounds like the Harrison twins are announcing for Kentucky today as well.
    No way. Harrow all year.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    No way. Harrow all year.
    I am looking forward to seeing how Harrow does. I would think he would be ahead any point guard Cal has had since he has been in the system for a year.
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    So whats the word on the twins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    #twinning?

    Championships for MY teams in my lifetime:
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    Chicago Blackhawks - 10, 13
    University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12
    Cincinnati Bengals - None
    Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98

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    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    No way. Harrow all year.
    Agree. I think he will be a great player for us.

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    Yes, I'm sure academics played a part. See you two next June.
    Choo got it, dude.

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    James Young to announce tomorrow and the only school that he has really had any contact with is Kentucky.

    Cats will have three of the top 5 recruits according to ESPN.com and Cal is not done. Julius Randle has also been recruited heavily by Kentucky as well and Andrew Wiggins, considered by many to be the top player in 2014, could reclassify and join them.

    This could be the best recruiting class of all time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    This could be the best recruiting class of all time.
    So in other words, it's Calipari's most recent recruiting class.


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