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    Quote Originally Posted by New York Red View Post
    For anyone who dares to complain about UK's upcoming schedules, check this out (from Cal):

    2012-2013

    vs Baylor (at Rupp)
    @ Louisville
    vs Duke (Champions Classic)
    @ Georgetown
    @ Big East team TBA
    vs Maryland (grand opening of the Barclays Center)

    2013-2014

    @ North Carolina
    vs Louisville (at Rupp)
    SEC/Big East Challenge (TBA)
    vs Baylor (in Cowboys Stadium - doubleheader/girls game first)
    vs Michigan State (in Chicago)
    *In discussions with Coach K to start a neutral site series with Duke at different sites around the country, beginning in 2013/14.

    No other school has ever scheduled as many marquee games year after year as Kentucky has, and that obviously isn't going to change.

    Kentucky needs to play out of conference games like these. Lord knows they aint gonna get much competition in the SEC!!!!!!!!
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    Playing in the SEC has clearly kept our member schools from winning championships. I mean, just compare the number of championships won by SEC member schools versus championships won by the Big 10 over the past 20 years. (Hint: Without Michigan State your conference would have a big goose egg. SEC: SIX! )

    WHOOPS! Another fail by Assembly Hall.

    Conference smack is about all the poor hoosiers have left, and them trying even that makes them look stupid if you look at actual results.
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    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    UK has won as many championships since 1996 as the ENTIRE Big Ten has won since 1987!
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    Baylor in Jerry Jones' Pleasure Palace > Hoosiers in bloomington

    Cal is the man and UK continues to set the standard.
    You know what else? Guess where the Final Four is the year we play Baylor down there?

    If you guessed Jerry World, you guessed correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    Playing in the SEC has clearly kept our member schools from winning championships. I mean, just compare the number of championships won by SEC member schools versus championships won by the Big 10 over the past 20 years. (Hint: Without Michigan State your conference would have a big goose egg. SEC: SIX! )

    WHOOPS! Another fail by Assembly Hall.

    Conference smack is about all the poor hoosiers have left, and them trying even that makes them look stupid if you look at actual results.
    LOL......it wasnt conference smack. If I thought my team was gonna be in a less than steller conference, I would want to play good teams ooc. We arent talking the past here, we are looking into the future. Now conversely If I thought I had a good team, but yet was going to get stiff competition from within the conference I would be more apt to have an easier ooc schedule.

    I never intended my comments to be a recent history lesson on how the SEC stacked up against the BIG according to championships in the last 25 years. BTW, how would the numbers be if it was FF appearances?
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    LOL on the Duke comment. Every year I look at where Duke is and I just shake my head. Never understood how that works.
    You must admit there's a difference between playing Chattanooga and Belmont. Between Radford and Davidson. Between Penn and Samford. Between Penn State and and Colorado State. Of course, fans of "top tier" programs look at schools like those as automatic wins, but there's a considerable difference.

    In the past 3 years, Duke has played 25 nonconference opponents in the top 100 RPI. Kentucky -- 15. Narrow it to the top 50, it's Duke 15, Kentucky 10.

    That's how it works.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    You must admit there's a difference between playing Chattanooga and Belmont. Between Radford and Davidson. Between Penn and Samford. Between Penn State and and Colorado State. Of course, fans of "top tier" programs look at schools like those as automatic wins, but there's a considerable difference.

    In the past 3 years, Duke has played 25 nonconference opponents in the top 100 RPI. Kentucky -- 15. Narrow it to the top 50, it's Duke 15, Kentucky 10.

    That's how it works.
    There certainly is dabvu. Interesting stuff.
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    There's definitely an art and science to picking the top teams from crap conferences and the middling teams from power conferences.

    Everyone is going to play a some teams from the MAC or MEAC or MAAC et al, but if you play the top team it looks much better and you should still easily be able to defeat them.

    Also if you play a crap team from a good conference, even if there record turns out to not be as good, they'll still keep a high RPI due to the tough schedule.
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    That said, kudos to UK on the scheduling. Those are interesting and watchable new matchups.

    I was a fan of the IU-UK rivalry (I also attended all of the "Big 4 Classic" games a gazillion years ago), but they seem to have done a good job of filling that void for now.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498 View Post
    That said, kudos to UK on the scheduling. Those are interesting and watchable new matchups.

    I was a fan of the IU-UK rivalry (I also attended all of the "Big 4 Classic" games a gazillion years ago), but they seem to have done a good job of filling that void for now.

    Yes they are, and yes they have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498 View Post
    That said, kudos to UK on the scheduling. Those are interesting and watchable new matchups.

    I was a fan of the IU-UK rivalry (I also attended all of the "Big 4 Classic" games a gazillion years ago), but they seem to have done a good job of filling that void for now.
    I think the biggest fear was that the schedule would be boring. Since this announcement, every UK fan I have seen speak/type on the issue is very happy with how the schedule is now looking.

    It's nice for the program to be in such competent hands after BCG/Flubster.

    I'm also a huge fan of how Cal is enforcing a strict 2 year limit on our scheduling decisions. No more 8 year contracts with Lil Brother, even though Cal said he does not envision that game changing anytime soon. Locking your program into such long commitments when there's no advantage to doing so is just dumb.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    BTW WMR I looked up FF appearances for the SEC and Big Ten since 1987. The SEC has 13 amongst 3 schools.....UK, Florida, and Arkansas. The Big Ten has 18 amongst 7 schools...Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Minnesota.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    BTW WMR I looked up FF appearances for the SEC and Big Ten since 1987. The SEC has 13 amongst 3 schools.....UK, Florida, and Arkansas. The Big Ten has 18 amongst 7 schools...Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Minnesota.
    So you're telling me the SEC knows how to close?

    Coffee is for closers! Playing in the Big 10 will get you close, but no cigar.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Re: UK Basketball 8th Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    BTW WMR I looked up FF appearances for the SEC and Big Ten since 1987. The SEC has 13 amongst 3 schools.....UK, Florida, and Arkansas. The Big Ten has 18 amongst 7 schools...Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Minnesota.
    LSU made the Final Four in '06 as well. 14 amongst 4, now.

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    And I've seen so many play the "Vacated" card on Calipari that I may as well play it here...Minneosta and Michigan each had a Final Four vacated, did they not?


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