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    A tale of two pitchers

    I was looking at some yearly rolling comparisons* and came across two pitchers:

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    Name	GS	IP	K/9	BB/9	HR/9	BABIP	GB%	HR/FB	ERA	FIP	xFIP	WAR
    A	27	160.1	6.79	2.64	1.35	0.299	39.40%	12.70%	4.72	4.44	4.00	1
    B	26	163	5.63	1.99	1.33	0.271	46.10%	14.60%	4.09	4.49	3.86	1
    I found the similarity between the two pretty interesting. Basically, these two pitchers have provided the same level of performance even if they haven't gotten the same results. It's also interesting that they've pitched almost the same number of games and innings.

    Thoughts? Guesses on who these two pitchers are?

    *Note, by "rolling comparison," I mean from May 14, 2011 to May 14, 2012.
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    Re: A tale of two pitchers

    A is probably Homer Bailey. Not sure about B. Arroyo?

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    Re: A tale of two pitchers

    Arroyo's HR rate is much higher than that...I was going to guess: A. Latos and B. Bailey...but I don't think that is right either...

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    Re: A tale of two pitchers

    The bottom one is Leake? Top one is Arroyo?

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    Re: A tale of two pitchers

    My guess is Leake and Bailey with Leake being A.

    Bronson's HR rate is 1.88/9 the counting this year and last.

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    Re: A tale of two pitchers

    I can't believe no one's cheated yet.
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    Re: A tale of two pitchers

    No one's got it right yet.

    I just think it's interesting how similar these two pitchers have performed while going about it in different ways.
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    Re: A tale of two pitchers

    I don't know which one is which but Im guessing Leake, and Latos?? I say Latos because noone else has guessed him.
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    Re: A tale of two pitchers

    Grover Cleveland Alexander and Christy Mathewson? Did I win?

    oh...wait...you said 2011. Sorry
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    Re: A tale of two pitchers

    Is Frank Pastore one?
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: A tale of two pitchers

    A is Homer Bailey
    B is Mike Leake
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    Re: A tale of two pitchers

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    A is Homer Bailey
    B is Mike Leake
    I had the pitchers right just in the wrong order...interesting comparison anyway.

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    Re: A tale of two pitchers

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    I found the similarity between the two pretty interesting. Basically, these two pitchers have provided the same level of performance even if they haven't gotten the same results. It's also interesting that they've pitched almost the same number of games and innings.
    Also, not that far apart in age:

    Homer Bailey birthdate, May 3, 1986
    Mike Leake birthdate, Nov. 12, 1987

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    Re: A tale of two pitchers

    Quote Originally Posted by CesarGeronimo View Post
    Also, not that far apart in age:

    Homer Bailey birthdate, May 3, 1986
    Mike Leake birthdate, Nov. 12, 1987
    That's something that people forget WAY too often.
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    Re: A tale of two pitchers

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    That's something that people forget WAY too often.
    Also, Bailey went into the minors from HS and Leake went straight to the majors after college...
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