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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    When has Chapman walked anybody in bunches this year? It appears he has solved that problem.
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    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    Votto doesn't think it was a fun finish. He's right. Marshall is a good reliever who is pitching very poorly and has all season. He's to be watched. I do not think he has the mentality to be a closer. Also, I don't agree with Chapman as closer. He needs to be in the rotation. Either Logan or Jose should be the closer.
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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    When has Chapman walked anybody in bunches this year? It appears he has solved that problem. Marshall is a quality set up man. We know this. And being a closer isn't as simple as being a strike thrower.
    And moving to Aroldis to the closer role...we "know" this won't affect him and make him start the walks rolling in? We "know" that moving Sean to the 8th inning makes him "unhittable" again? No. We don't know these things. Sometimes guys miss their spots, sometimes they don't have their good stuff and sometimes the hitter simply beats you.
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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
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    Walking 2 guys is walking them in bunches?
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    Let's face it, you mis-hit the bun with the mustard squirter, no one will really care.

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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

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    Yeah, it is. I saw that too, I can't repeat my language here when they called Jeter safe.
    Safe all the way, but it is the Yankees. Benefit of the doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    And moving to Aroldis to the closer role...we "know" this won't affect him and make him start the walks rolling in? We "know" that moving Sean to the 8th inning makes him "unhittable" again? No. We don't know these things. Sometimes guys miss their spots, sometimes they don't have their good stuff and sometimes the hitter simply beats you.
    I give up.

    We don't "know" anything. That doesn't justify doing dumb things.
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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    Aroldis needs rest. He can work multiple innings. I wouldn't use him to close.

    As I just said in a thread I started, I like Jose as the closer. He seems to be able to pitch frequently and he can get the K.

    I vote for Jose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Aroldis needs rest. He can work multiple innings. I wouldn't use him to close.

    As I just said in a thread I started, I like Jose as the closer. He seems to be able to pitch frequently and he can get the K.

    I vote for Jose.
    That's what I said.
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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    I like George's tie.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

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    I like George's tie.
    Yuck
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    I'd be okay with giving Arredondo a shot. Anybody but Marshall.
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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

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    Yuck
    That's why I like it.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    Marshall and Dusty were trending on Twitter as the narrowly avoided meltdown was ongoing.

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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    I give up.

    We don't "know" anything. That doesn't justify doing dumb things.
    16 outings. 15 innings. 21/3 k/bb ratio. 24/15 gb/fb ratio. 2 poor outings out of 16. 8 save opportunities, 7 converted.

    And this is with him not pitching very well. Marshall will be fine.

    The way I look at it is this...if we move Chapman into the closer role...it's going to be VERY difficult to move him OUT of the closer role. I want to see him start. As I'm sure most Reds fans do. Leaving him out of that role allows him to pitch the 7th & 8th, the 8th & 9th. If he's the "closer", we know how he'll be used...9th only, sometimes only PART of the 9th. He's never been good on going back to back days, and certainly not 3 days in a row. I know he's been virtually unhittable, but there ARE reasons to not put him in that role. Valid ones. And hardly "dumb" ones.
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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Aroldis needs rest. He can work multiple innings. I wouldn't use him to close.

    As I just said in a thread I started, I like Jose as the closer. He seems to be able to pitch frequently and he can get the K.

    I vote for Jose.
    I bet he'd be fine. But I vote we stick with the guy who's had success instead of juggling guys and showing a vote of "no confidence" in Marshall. Giving other guys opportunities would be great, but I don't want to see a permanent switch. Going to a committee...fine. Demoting Sean...no.

    I think Dusty handled today perfectly IMO. As he's done multiple times IIRC. When a guy hasn't had it, he's yanked him. He didn't do that as often with Cordero.
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