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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    Chapman should close.
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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY View Post
    Chapman should close.
    I don't understand how anybody could debate this.
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    Marshall is a great reliever when he's used properly. It's not a knock on him. He's not bad, he just can't close.
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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

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    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    He's not a closer.
    No. He's a great reliever. Who on this club IS a "closer"? Nobody. We've got great relievers. Period.

    Not every pitcher is going to have 1-2-3 innings. Not every pitcher is going to have his top stuff every time out.

    Keeping Aroldis OUT of the closer role makes it much easier to pitch him multiple innings, and keep the window open for moving to starting. 7 out of 8 save opportunities isn't bad. At all.
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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    Quote Originally Posted by Degenerate39 View Post
    Coco Marshall
    Cordero was better.
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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    That was never the goal. He won't start this year.
    Sure he will.

    They'll be out of it by July or August, Dusty will be fired, and he'll start to get ready for next year.

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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    That was close. 5-4 FC. Just missed the DP. 1st and 3rd.

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    Marshall - 15 IP, 22 hits allowed (so far), 3 walks, 21 K's
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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds Fanatic View Post
    Once again the closer can't close
    I think Francisco Cordero could close. He did it for many years with great success.

    I do not know what Marshall was doing there. Nobody could touch his curveball. Every time he got ahead, he threw a fastball and it was lined for a single.

    If Marshall doesn't use his curveball as an out pitch, he can't close, he can't set up, he can't be successful.

    Again, I don't know what Marshall was doing there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    No. He's a great reliever. Who on this club IS a "closer"? Nobody. We've got great relievers. Period.

    Not every pitcher is going to have 1-2-3 innings. Not every pitcher is going to have his top stuff every time out.

    Keeping Aroldis OUT of the closer role makes it much easier to pitch him multiple innings, and keep the window open for moving to starting. 7 out of 8 save opportunities isn't bad. At all.
    The lefty that throws 100 miles an hour and strikes everybody out would seem to be a good bet to be a good closer.
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    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Sure he will.

    They'll be out of it by July or August, Dusty will be fired, and he'll start to get ready for next year.
    That's the only way it happens. Or if like 3 starters arms fall off.
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    Always making it interesting.
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    Re: 5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

    3-0 count on Granderson


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