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    Re: USMNT: The March to Brazil - World Cup 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    Just not a fan of Jones on this squad. The things he provides are redundant, his touch is below average, he struggles to provide linkage up top, etc. I would be somewhat intrigued by moving Cameron to midfield permanently and trying Jones as a center back.
    Whatever positives Jones brings to the table are completely negated by the fact that he simply doesn't pair well with Michael Bradley -- and the US needs Bradley to be at his best in order to create quality scoring chances.
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    Re: USMNT: The March to Brazil - World Cup 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by reds1869 View Post
    Glad Australia made it in. The US all but clinched a spot this evening, too.
    Cheers, glad the US made it wouldn't be the same with out them.

    Choosen to go see the Reds instead of the this WC, Brazil just looks like it's going to be a very expensive trip as opposed to South Africa.

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    Re: USMNT: The March to Brazil - World Cup 2014

    To make a 4-2-3-1 really work, both the defensive midfielders need to be fluid ball movers. Right now Bradley is the only player who has shown he's got both the bite and skill needed to flourish back there. Ideally he should have a partner who can really direct traffic back there. Basically the U.S. continues to wait for the next Claudio Reyna to emerge.

    Evans needs to be replaced immediately. Other teams are going to exploit him now that they've seen his lack of pace. One guy I've seen play a little bit and who bears some watching is Andrew Farrell. He was the top pick in the MLS draft this past year and he's a bit of a beast. He does not get beaten out on the wing, and he shows some legit skills when he goes forward. I'd give him a Gold Cup callup (not that I think he will).
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    Re: USMNT: The March to Brazil - World Cup 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by thatcoolguy_22 View Post
    How about like against Spain in the semis of the 09 Confederations Cup? When he was only 19 btw. He is a stud.
    If he was a stud he would be playing at a more elite club level. Dempsey is the only stud the Americans have had in a very long time, maybe ever.

    Bradley is a very good player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Australian Red View Post
    Australia made the world cup last night but did it tough. Needed a win last night at home v Iraq and waited until the 83min to get a winner. Great night tho and now 3 world cups in a row.
    Great news. I just wonder how you feel if it is better just to get in....even if the competition to do so is not that great. I say....Just let me in and we will figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    To make a 4-2-3-1 really work, both the defensive midfielders need to be fluid ball movers. Right now Bradley is the only player who has shown he's got both the bite and skill needed to flourish back there. Ideally he should have a partner who can really direct traffic back there. Basically the U.S. continues to wait for the next Claudio Reyna to emerge.

    Evans needs to be replaced immediately. Other teams are going to exploit him now that they've seen his lack of pace. One guy I've seen play a little bit and who bears some watching is Andrew Farrell. He was the top pick in the MLS draft this past year and he's a bit of a beast. He does not get beaten out on the wing, and he shows some legit skills when he goes forward. I'd give him a Gold Cup callup (not that I think he will).
    The US needs its best 11 players on the field. They don't really have the luxury of playing Cameron or Jones in a backup role. In the games I have seen so far, Cameron has played better than Jones, but I still think Jones is one of the better players the US has.

    IMO this is probably the reason why Donovan will be welcomed back when he decides he wants to.

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    I think it is time to move on from Donovan. Now is the time for a youth movement.

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    Re: USMNT: The March to Brazil - World Cup 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    If he was a stud he would be playing at a more elite club level. Dempsey is the only stud the Americans have had in a very long time, maybe ever.

    Bradley is a very good player.
    So Neymar just became a stud then?

    Dempsey split his age 23 season between the MLS and Fullham. He only made 10 appearances and scored 1 goal for the nearly relegated lilywhites.
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    Re: USMNT: The March to Brazil - World Cup 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by thatcoolguy_22 View Post
    So Neymar just became a stud then?

    Dempsey split his age 23 season between the MLS and Fullham. He only made 10 appearances and scored 1 goal for the nearly relegated lilywhites.
    Exactly. Jozy is about to break out. He is playing in a good league now and just needs to wait for the right opportunity to break into one of the top leagues. You can just see in the runs he makes and how aggressive he is to the ball how much he has learned in the last couple years.

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    Jozy used to have a rep for loafing. He seems to have moved past that for good.
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    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Re: USMNT: The March to Brazil - World Cup 2014

    Is there any hope left that Oguchi Onyewu does anything on the international scene? Or is he pretty much done?

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    I would be amazed if he made any further meaningful contribution to the USMNT. I guess anything is possible, though. He's on the initial roster for the Gold Cup camp, IIRC.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Re: USMNT: The March to Brazil - World Cup 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Is there any hope left that Oguchi Onyewu does anything on the international scene? Or is he pretty much done?
    He's done. And to be quite frank, he was never all that good. I saw the Spain-U.S. friendly two years ago where the Spanish players absolutely abused Gooch. It was embarrassing.
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    Re: USMNT: The March to Brazil - World Cup 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    The US needs its best 11 players on the field. They don't really have the luxury of playing Cameron or Jones in a backup role. In the games I have seen so far, Cameron has played better than Jones, but I still think Jones is one of the better players the US has.

    IMO this is probably the reason why Donovan will be welcomed back when he decides he wants to.
    Best 11 is a bit of a vague concept. The U.S. team is Dempsey, Bradley, Altidore, Howard and seven other guys. Besler and Gonzalez are looking like they're going to be the central defensive pairing. Yet who makes that starting 11 is going to be dictated by formation as much as merit/ability.

    I don't think the U.S. really has the personnel to run an effective 4-2-3-1. Against top teams, it's not going to have a lot of possession, which means it will need more speed on the wings for the World Cup so it can counter more effectively. That's probably where Donovan comes back into the picture. Brek Shea could re-emerge as well. Klinsmann has thrown his lot in with the 4-2-3-1 and for the next year he's going to hunting for players who can make it work better.
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    Re: USMNT: The March to Brazil - World Cup 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    The US needs its best 11 players on the field. They don't really have the luxury of playing Cameron or Jones in a backup role. In the games I have seen so far, Cameron has played better than Jones, but I still think Jones is one of the better players the US has.

    IMO this is probably the reason why Donovan will be welcomed back when he decides he wants to.
    To make a comparison with my home country..... I wish Uruguay would ween itself off Forlan, but the NT Coach refuses to do so. Refuses to let Cavani develop as the main striker, while Suarez would be the secondary striker and playmaker. Suarez can do pretty much anything from MF going forward.
    But the NT cannot get himself off Forlan and thinks it still 2010.
    Same with Lugano as the spine of the defense.

    When a country has success with certain players after several years of middling results.... it seems like they get scared to be without them.
    Uruguay NT coach refuses to make 3 subtle changes in players and it has dragged the whole team down to almost out of the WC.

    The US will make the WC, but they need to figure out quick if Donovan has anything left to really make it worthwhile to use him or let the new generation start doing it's thing.


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