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    I don't think anyone in that group can be happy. The US team is very interesting right now. the odds provide some level of hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxilon View Post
    Hey nobody ever said you could win the World Cup without beating any quality opponents.
    I agree -- but it'd be nice to have a group where you have a decent shot to get 3 points in one of the matches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWM View Post
    Can someone who knows more about this than I do explain group H to me? Maybe I just don't know enough to see the quality teams there. How can Spain and Holland be in the same group, a d Germany and Portugal, then have THAT group?
    The Top 8 teams were seeded based on FIFA rankings. The Netherlands weren't in the top 8 so they went into the other pot with the rest of the European teams. Same with Portugal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    I agree -- but it'd be nice to have a group where you have a decent shot to get 3 points in one of the matches.
    I think we have a decent shot to beat Ghana and can give Portugal and Germany very good games.

    Looks like we also got screwed on the travel too.

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    Ghana is the Newman to the US' Seinfeld.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed27 View Post
    The Top 8 teams were seeded based on FIFA rankings. The Netherlands weren't in the top 8 so they went into the other pot with the rest of the European teams. Same with Portugal.
    Exactly. If you looked at the pots, the European section had three major bogey teams - Netherlands, Italy and Portugal.

    The U.S. was the bogey team in the North America/Asia pot. Ghana was the bogey team in its pot. And Germany was one of the four prohibitive favorites (with Brazil, Spain and Argentina). It was like Group G rolled nothing but snake eyes.
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    Yikes, that draw doesn't look good at all.

    It must be assumed that Germany wins the group, even if they do it with 5 points. Could 4 points enough to grab the second spot? Can the Yanks muster a win and a draw against our World Cup nemesis and Ronaldo? So let's say the Yanks exceed expectations and advance. Then they're staring at a very classy Belgium squad that ran circles around us in the recent friendly.

    It's a gauntlet, and I don't see the Yanks making it out alive. Even if they play well, they might only have two points and an early exit for it.
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    If Ronaldo plays like he did in 2010, I think the US has a pretty good shot against Portugal. When he's on, he's great. But he seems easily frustrated and resorts to whining and diving when things aren't going well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    I wish I could read the German and Portuguese sites right now to see their reactions.
    Over here in Germany everybody is quite satisfied with the draw. Though no one says thatīs an easy group. Which it is not. Enough competition to get the heads right into the tourney. Though everybody here expects us to win this group. Which we, with all due respect, really should. But itīs a tough one for you guys. On the other hand: No matter in which group you would have landed it would have been tough for you. And honestly in this group i think you have a definite chance to beat Ghana and give Portugal and Germany a tough run for their money.

    The 2 most interesting groups imho are group D with Uruguay, England and Italy. And group C. Greece, Ivory Coast, Japan and Colombia. On paper pretty much everybody can go through there.

    All in all a pretty interesting draw with interesting line-ups in every group. Looking forward to it
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    My sisters boyfriend is from Ghana. He and I get along really well, but this might be prove to be a tough gap to bridge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paintmered View Post
    Yikes, that draw doesn't look good at all.

    It must be assumed that Germany wins the group, even if they do it with 5 points. Could 4 points enough to grab the second spot? Can the Yanks muster a win and a draw against our World Cup nemesis and Ronaldo? So let's say the Yanks exceed expectations and advance. Then they're staring at a very classy Belgium squad that ran circles around us in the recent friendly.

    It's a gauntlet, and I don't see the Yanks making it out alive. Even if they play well, they might only have two points and an early exit for it.
    I think 4 points is probably a somewhat optimistic scenario for the Yanks -- win against Ghana, draw Portugal, lose to Germany.

    The big wild card here is the 3rd match against Germany -- if the Germans are already sitting on 6 points and a guaranteed through to the knockout rounds, they could be ripe for a let-down match that lets the US steal a point or three. I think that's probably the most realistic pathway to 5 points (which I think would be enough for a 2nd place finish) for the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    I think 4 points is probably a somewhat optimistic scenario for the Yanks -- win against Ghana, draw Portugal, lose to Germany.

    The big wild card here is the 3rd match against Germany -- if the Germans are already sitting on 6 points and a guaranteed through to the knockout rounds, they could be ripe for a let-down match that lets the US steal a point or three. I think that's probably the most realistic pathway to 5 points (which I think would be enough for a 2nd place finish) for the US.
    Absolutely. The Ghana/Portugal result will be huge if we can get 3 off Ghana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    I think 4 points is probably a somewhat optimistic scenario for the Yanks -- win against Ghana, draw Portugal, lose to Germany.

    The big wild card here is the 3rd match against Germany -- if the Germans are already sitting on 6 points and a guaranteed through to the knockout rounds, they could be ripe for a let-down match that lets the US steal a point or three. I think that's probably the most realistic pathway to 5 points (which I think would be enough for a 2nd place finish) for the US.
    That's a good point and something I didn't consider in my earlier comment.

    The path forward for the US looks much better if Portugal and Ghana earn no more than two points in group play. This happens if: first, Germany pulls all 6 points against Portugal and Ghana as expected. Second, Portugal and Ghana need to draw in their match-up. As the last match in the group play for each, a draw will be somewhat less likely with each team playing for the full three points even if the teams are fairly evenly matched.

    The Yanks then move forward if they draw in all three matches. They absolutely cannot overcome a loss to Portugal or Ghana.
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    Did Platini have anything to do with France getting that nice Group?

    That team and it's misfit toys and bad apples gets a reprieve and is rewarded with that group?

    At least Uruguay got a tough group after stumbling in the WCQ...because their coach refuses to bring in younger faster more offensive players in the MF and not realizing that this is not 2007-10 and Lugano needs to go.

    Pretty lucky what they got...same with Argentina. Some good teams will be gone in the group phase.

    The joke I hear is that Bladder wants to add more African and Asian teams and reduce the SA and European ones. Now in Europe i can understand with all the small countries they have ..I mean come on...Luxembourg? San Marino?

    The SA teams could go play all of Asia, Oceania and win out just about every time......and besides Mexico and the US, depending on form...... the same thing with CONCACAF.

    Oceana should be brought into Asia and they should get 4 at most teams in.


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