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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Uh...did you see Wainwright earlier this year? And Arrendondo last year? They're not the greatest example of your point. It does take some time.
    I believe Wainwright pitched a 9 inning shutout his last outing or the outing before.

    Arredondo was pretty solid last season.

    Not sure what you're talking about.

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    Madson was a prized free-agent acquisition in the winter, when he signed a one-year, $8.5 million contract with an $11 million mutual option for 2013. The option is unlikely to get picked up, and he would get a $2.5 million buyout. But Madson would like to return to Cincinnati next year.

    "I'm waiting for this thing to crank back up. I'd love to be back here," Madson said. "I don't see any reason not to. When I left Spring Training, we had some good talks. Hopefully that's still in place."
    http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/...k_cin&c_id=cin

    Does Madson want to return because of the very friendly player option? Or would he take less to stay? What would you do?

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    Wrong thread.

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    I'd love to bring him back as our closer for 2013.
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    We're going to need a closer next year if Chapman is going to start.
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    I read an article (I forget off the top of my head where it came from) that interviewed Madson and he was quoted as saying that he and Walt talked about him coming back next year. He said the talks were promising. Also he said that he wants to come back to Cincinnati. A 1 year deal with a team option for a 2nd sounds good to me. I just hope he comes back like Joe Nathan did. Seems like its harder for a closer to come back from Tommy John and be good than it is a starter. Seems kind of odd if you ask me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGullett35 View Post
    Seems like its harder for a closer to come back from Tommy John and be good than it is a starter. Seems kind of odd if you ask me.
    Starters get a consistent workload with rest in between.

    A closer usually pitches one inning at a time and sometimes can go days and days without pitching. That makes it very hard to work through command issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    We're going to need a closer next year if Chapman is going to start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGullett35 View Post
    I read an article (I forget off the top of my head where it came from) that interviewed Madson and he was quoted as saying that he and Walt talked about him coming back next year. He said the talks were promising. Also he said that he wants to come back to Cincinnati. A 1 year deal with a team option for a 2nd sounds good to me. I just hope he comes back like Joe Nathan did. Seems like its harder for a closer to come back from Tommy John and be good than it is a starter. Seems kind of odd if you ask me.
    do you mean the article linked about 3 posts above yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    do you mean the article linked about 3 posts above yours?
    Yes it was that article. I had it in an e-mail attachment though. I feel [dumb] now. I should have read more of the thread. My bad.
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    Chapman will end up being the Reds' long-term closer and Madson will go elsewhere, IMO.

    Has everyone noticed that no one in the Reds' rotation has missed a start this season? You know how many of those guys are free agents after this year? Zero. So, what makes anyone think Chapman will actually be a starter next year? They said he'd be a starter this year. It's obvious IMO he'll be a closer again next year. For those that disagree, which current Reds starter won't be back? Cueto? Latos? Arroyo? Leake? Bailey? (Exactly.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    Chapman will end up being the Reds' long-term closer and Madson will go elsewhere, IMO.

    Has everyone noticed that no one in the Reds' rotation has missed a start this season? You know how many of those guys are free agents after this year? Zero. So, what makes anyone think Chapman will actually be a starter next year? They said he'd be a starter this year. It's obvious IMO he'll be a closer again next year. For those that disagree, which current Reds starter won't be back? Cueto? Latos? Arroyo? Leake? Bailey? (Exactly.)
    I'll be straight up, I could do without the know-it-all-ness of the final word of your post.

    That said, I am of the opinion that Latos and Cueto are keepers. Arroyo could be dumped if another team was desparate. Leake and Bailey are subject to be traded.

    I'm not saying that is what will happen, but you seem to be of the opinion that it is a lead pipe lock that the same 5 guys will compose next season's rotation. Possible? Yes. Absolutely? No.

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    Everybody and their mother seems to forget that Arroyo is a 10 and 5 player, and can't be traded without his permission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    Everybody and their mother seems to forget that Arroyo is a 10 and 5 player, and can't be traded without his permission.
    I know I haven't forgot. There was recent speculation on here that he would accept a deal to New York. As for my mom, I can't speak for her.

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    Even though it would be awesome if the Reds sold high on Arroyo (who has pitched quite well this year), they won't. And I'm not even sure they can. They need the pitching and it's not like they can just slot Chapman into the rotation. I guess they could try to put Simon or LeCure in the 5 spot, but I'm not sure that would work out all that well. Too bad we don't have Travis Wood anymore. He would've been a decent 5th starter.


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