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    Re: Does this make anyone else cringe?

    Here's why I'm not sad:
    1) It would be impossible to pay all of them.
    2) We have a player who is as good (and more reliable) as any of them.
    3) The team has emphasized pitching and it is really showing. Does anyone want to return to the days of Jimmy Anderson and Claussen?
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    Re: Does this make anyone else cringe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
    That is flat out not factual.
    You forgot how many of his HR's came when the Reds were down big...Can you fetch me that stat?
    Last edited by Red Buckeye; 05-30-2012 at 09:13 PM.

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    Re: Does this make anyone else cringe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
    Here is what's factual.

    Dunn has 381 career HR.....27 were hit with a lead of 4 or more runs.
    Do you have the stats for when he was only in Cincy?

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    Re: Does this make anyone else cringe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
    Here is what's factual.

    Dunn has 381 career HR.....27 were hit with a lead of 4 or more runs.
    More facts. Albert Pujols has 453 HR's. He has hit 44 with a lead of 4 or more runs.

    Dunn = 7.8% of HRs came when ahead by 4 runs.
    Pujols = 9.7% of HR's came when ahead by 4 runs.

    Sorry, that is a pretty meaningless stat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Buckeye View Post
    Do you have the stats for when he was only in Cincy?
    Yes, he hit 270 HR and 264 were with an 8 run lead.....and all were solo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Buckeye View Post
    You forgot how many of his HR's came when the Reds were down big...Can you fetch me that stat?
    44 HR when the Reds were down 4 or more.

    Nothing ticks me off more than a guy who has the nerve to drive in runs when his team is losing by 4 or more runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by improbus View Post
    More facts. Albert Pujols has 453 HR's. He has hit 44 with a lead of 4 or more runs.

    Dunn = 7.8% of HRs came when ahead by 4 runs.
    Pujols = 9.7% of HR's came when ahead by 4 runs.

    Sorry, that is a pretty meaningless stat.
    Brandon Phillips 11.9%

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    Re: Does this make anyone else cringe?

    Hamilton was tough to lose. EE was always a solid player and I'd love to have him back. I absolutely never want to see Dunn in a Reds uniform again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by improbus View Post
    More facts. Albert Pujols has 453 HR's. He has hit 44 with a lead of 4 or more runs.

    Dunn = 7.8% of HRs came when ahead by 4 runs.
    Pujols = 9.7% of HR's came when ahead by 4 runs.

    Sorry, that is a pretty meaningless stat.
    Votto 8.7%

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    Quote Originally Posted by improbus View Post
    More facts. Albert Pujols has 453 HR's. He has hit 44 with a lead of 4 or more runs.

    Dunn = 7.8% of HRs came when ahead by 4 runs.
    Pujols = 9.7% of HR's came when ahead by 4 runs.

    Sorry, that is a pretty meaningless stat.
    Johnny Bench 10.3%

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    Quote Originally Posted by improbus View Post
    More facts. Albert Pujols has 453 HR's. He has hit 44 with a lead of 4 or more runs.

    Dunn = 7.8% of HRs came when ahead by 4 runs.
    Pujols = 9.7% of HR's came when ahead by 4 runs.

    Sorry, that is a pretty meaningless stat.
    Reggie Jackson 10%

    I'm done.

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    Re: Does this make anyone else cringe?

    Didn't we do the home run or bust thing already. It didn't work out real well as I recall. As far as the Hamilton trade - anybody can look back now, 4-5 years after the fact and say it was a bad trade, but not very many people were complaining when Volquez won 17 games that first year.

    As far as Dunn, I felt the Reds didn't get enough for him and EE was everybody's whipping boy - whom we couldn't wait to run out of town.

    It's not like the Reds are in the doldrums without these guys.

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    Re: Does this make anyone else cringe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
    Hamilton was not a surprise except that his health has been pretty good.....he was touted like Griffey and ARod when drafted.

    Dunn is one of the most consistent players of all-time....everyone knows what he'll do from series to series. His career OB% is far better than what most all of the Reds even sniff of getting....but he's been gone a while and this is old news.
    Yea, Hamilton was touted like Griffey and arod but then he found out about coke. There was plenty of reason to believe, in that alone, that he wasn't going anywhere fast.
    And a big donkey argument is a joke. He is the winner of the Will Ferrel look a like contest however.
    Mr. Redlegs - 2012

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    Re: Does this make anyone else cringe?

    Not at all.

    1. Came with a huge package of issues and what type of price tag? Let's be honest no one was sold he would stay sober and clean long enough to pan out.

    2. Could hit homers. Can't hit in clutch and was a lousy fielder. Red's are currently a great First to third team. Dunn would not fit this style. I miss him very much but glad he is gone.

    3. EE took how long to do this? Rolen is out clubhouse leader. Rolen played huge roll in 2010. I wouldn't trade that for EE.

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    Re: Does this make anyone else cringe?

    Quote Originally Posted by UCBrownsfan View Post
    AL Home Runs

    1 Josh Hamilton, TXR 21 HR
    2. Adam Dunn, CHW 16
    3. Edwin Encarnacion, TOR 16
    Which would you rather have the reds do hit home runs or win it all? The choice should be easy. They are in 1st. What more do ya want? Ah, Reds fans, you gotta love them.


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