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    Their track record speaks for itself. You can't expect any team to hit gold every year. The team has been remarkably consistent in making good first round picks over the last several years -- I think their reputation is secure.
    Every Reds first rounder (true first rounder, not supplemental) has made the Major Leagues since 2003 with the exception of Robert Stephenson, who is 19 years old. I can't imagine any team has a better streak going than that in the game.

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    Re: Nick Travieso

    I've did a complete 180 on Travieso. When I first heard the pick I didn't like it, he seemed like a reach. After doing some research, I've really come around. Kid has a great build, nice mechanics, a fastball in the mid-90's with a great slider and the makings of a changeup. Chris Buckley compared him to Matt Cain, who he also scouted in high school.

    I also loved the Jesse Winker and Tanner Rahier picks.

    I'm not sure what to think of Jeff Gelalich. I'll have to do some more reading on him.
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    Drafting Gelalich was the Reds' way of apologizing to the lower minor league affiliates that they were going to draft so many high schoolers. That's not a knock on Gelalich--I'm very excited about him, personally--but he clearly has the lowest ceiling of the guys taken so far.

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    Re: Nick Travieso

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    I've did a complete 180 on Travieso. When I first heard the pick I didn't like it, he seemed like a reach. After doing some research, I've really come around. Kid has a great build, nice mechanics, a fastball in the mid-90's with a great slider and the makings of a changeup. Chris Buckley compared him to Matt Cain, who he also scouted in high school.
    Same here. If the reports are correct, I don't know what more people wanted to see out of the kid. Elite arm strength, promising secondary stuff, solid build, clean mechanics. It sounds like lack of exposure hurt his draft status, but if that's the only gripe, we came away with a steal here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    I've did a complete 180 on Travieso. When I first heard the pick I didn't like it, he seemed like a reach. After doing some research, I've really come around. Kid has a great build, nice mechanics, a fastball in the mid-90's with a great slider and the makings of a changeup. Chris Buckley compared him to Matt Cain, who he also scouted in high school.

    I also loved the Jesse Winker and Tanner Rahier picks.

    I'm not sure what to think of Jeff Gelalich. I'll have to do some more reading on him.
    Agreed- like the Travieso pick. Love the Winkler and Rahier picks. Jury is out on Gelalich.

    (Of course, the jury is out on all draft picks, but you know what I mean)
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    Re: Nick Travieso

    Don't like the pick. Amongst some other potential (perhaps) smaller issues he is likely a reliever.

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    The reason that Travieso doesn’t get much first round talk among scouts despite his mid- to upper-90s fastball and completely clean health record is the same as hard throwing college relievers such as Oklahoma’s Damien Magnifico and St. Edwards’ Stephen Johnson. It’s hard to project his pitching mechanics, arm action and full complement of pitches to a starter’s role, although Travieso has a greater benefit of time on his side, particularly given his relatively fresh arm. Travieso has a well-paced delivery with a compact and short high arm circle in back and gets very good use of his strong lower half to generate power and torque prior to release. He also leans off pretty severely on release and spins to the first base side. The result is when Travieso releases the ball he’s coming inside and over it in a pronounced way. That makes it very difficult for him (or any pitcher) to get on top of and out front of a breaking ball and create consistent quality spin on the ball and also presents somewhat of a tip to advanced hitters because he has to change his hand angle and position for a breaking ball.
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    Re: Nick Travieso

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    I've did a complete 180 on Travieso. When I first heard the pick I didn't like it, he seemed like a reach. After doing some research, I've really come around. Kid has a great build, nice mechanics, a fastball in the mid-90's with a great slider and the makings of a changeup. Chris Buckley compared him to Matt Cain, who he also scouted in high school.

    I also loved the Jesse Winker and Tanner Rahier picks.

    I'm not sure what to think of Jeff Gelalich. I'll have to do some more reading on him.
    Dude has tree trunks as thighs. His build reminds me a lot of Matt Cain. In just watching the video it almost seems as if he is throwing 100% all the time. I am encouraged that he can touch 99 at times but sits within the 92ish range. Its always nice to have a pitcher who is able to dial it up but doesn't pitch the entire time like that.

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    Re: Nick Travieso

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    Don't like the pick. Amongst some other potential (perhaps) smaller issues he is likely a reliever.

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    Sounds like Johnny Cueto's old skeptics have been talking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    Sounds like Johnny Cueto's old skeptics have been talking.
    IDK but guy sounds like a 1st round version of Tyler Cline, Sean Watson, etc.. They have yet to get one of these types to pan out.
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    The Reds scouts have been in on Travioso for a long time. They are convinced evidently. I don't mean any disrespect to you personally when I say this because it sounds rude and I do not mean it like that Mario but I'll take their word over yours every day (and over the scouts you quoted). I love the pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    IDK but guy sounds like a 1st round version of Tyler Cline, Sean Watson, etc.. They have yet to get one of these types to pan out.
    Every Reds first rounder since 2003 has made the Majors. They seem to get those types right.

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    Re: Nick Travieso

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    Don't like the pick. Amongst some other potential (perhaps) smaller issues he is likely a reliever.

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    Don't like the pick. Amongst some other potential (perhaps) smaller issues he is likely a reliever.

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    The reason that Travieso doesn’t get much first round talk among scouts despite his mid- to upper-90s fastball and completely clean health record is the same as hard throwing college relievers such as Oklahoma’s Damien Magnifico and St. Edwards’ Stephen Johnson. It’s hard to project his pitching mechanics, arm action and full complement of pitches to a starter’s role, although Travieso has a greater benefit of time on his side, particularly given his relatively fresh arm. Travieso has a well-paced delivery with a compact and short high arm circle in back and gets very good use of his strong lower half to generate power and torque prior to release. He also leans off pretty severely on release and spins to the first base side. The result is when Travieso releases the ball he’s coming inside and over it in a pronounced way. That makes it very difficult for him (or any pitcher) to get on top of and out front of a breaking ball and create consistent quality spin on the ball and also presents somewhat of a tip to advanced hitters because he has to change his hand angle and position for a breaking ball.
    .....yeah, yeah, yeah.........and Eric Davis had a hitch in his swing.
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    Re: Nick Travieso

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    IDK but guy sounds like a 1st round version of Tyler Cline, Sean Watson, etc.. They have yet to get one of these types to pan out.
    I don't remember hearing anything about Tyler Cline beyond a fastball that scraped 90. Kind of ridiculous to compare the two IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superdude View Post
    I don't remember hearing anything about Tyler Cline beyond a fastball that scraped 90. Kind of ridiculous to compare the two IMO.
    You can compare guys anyway you want. What I see is another pudgy guy who has few innings on his arm and has the potential to start but profiles best as a relief arm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    You can compare guys anyway you want. What I see is another pudgy guy who has few innings on his arm and has the potential to start but profiles best as a relief arm.
    He is a high schooler with two above average pitches right now and a feeling of a change up. That doesn't profile as a reliever.


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