Quote Originally Posted by Krawhitham View Post
I could see him getting 16K and the Reds winning

as long as Arroyo can gave a good game
I can't.....to me if he's in long enough to get to 16...we're not going to get him after 8 2/3 or whatever. You'll see highlights of him in the 9th inning on pitch #122 throwing 100mph....he doesn't lose those. We gotta catch him in the first 3 innings throwing 93-96.

I think the highest number of whiffs he can have and us still win is 9.