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    Pythagoras Smilin' 2012

    Crazy old Pythagoras and his beard! Let's check him out in the Central so far:

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    Rk    Tm  W  L W-L%   R  RA Rdiff pythWL
    1    CIN 32 26 .552 4.2 3.9   0.3  31-27
    2    PIT 31 27 .534 3.2 3.6  -0.3  27-31
    3    STL 31 29 .517 5.1 4.1   1.0  36-24
    4    MIL 27 32 .458 4.4 4.7  -0.4  27-32
    5    HOU 25 34 .424 4.2 4.7  -0.5  26-33
    6    CHC 19 40 .322 3.6 4.6  -1.0  23-36
         Avg 27 31 .467 4.1       4.3  28-30
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    Generated 6/10/2012.

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    Re: Pythagoras Smilin' 2012

    Pythagoras can't take into account injuries to Berkman and Garcia. That is what is going to hurt STL.

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    Don't forget about Pythagoras' cousin, BABIP. Cards are sporting a .321 BABIP (best in baseball) and a 14.6% HR/FB ratio. There hasn't been a team BABIP that high over the course of the season since 2007; it's maxed out at .311 the last few years. And there hasn't been a HR/FB like that over the course of the seaosn since the 2005 Reds. In other words, the Cards aren't likely going to keep scoring 5 runs a game.
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    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    When do we start worrying about the Brewers? Injuries and all, they concern me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    When do we start worrying about the Brewers? Injuries and all, they concern me.
    When they start pitching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    When they start pitching.
    Their pitchers have actually been pretty decent -- 2nd highest K/9 in baseball. But their defense has been very poor.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Pythagoras Smilin' 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Their pitchers have actually been pretty decent -- 2nd highest K/9 in baseball. But their defense has been very poor.
    Their defense is horrendous, just a mess

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Their pitchers have actually been pretty decent -- 2nd highest K/9 in baseball. But their defense has been very poor.
    So, I'll revise it "run prevention unit." I'm on record that the Brewers somewhat remind me of the plodding 2000s Reds, except for having some legit MLB pitchers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Their defense is horrendous, just a mess
    Watching the Brewers play defense reminds me of how miserable I was, as a Reds fan, for the majority of the last decade.
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    Re: Pythagoras Smilin' 2012

    Pythagoras also doesn't take into account how putrid the Cardinals bullpen has been. That, in my opinion, has been the biggest issue. I love what Lance Lynn is doing but his absense from the bullpen is clearly noticable.
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    Re: Pythagoras Smilin' 2012

    The Pirates are now +32. Less than 2 weeks ago, they were in the negatives. What an amazing turnaround.

    The Reds are +40 before the game started today. That could potentially go up, we'll see.

    I think it's fair to say the Pirates are on par with the Reds at this point. The Cards are a remarkable +69! That's 2nd best in baseball behind the Rangers (who are +78).

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    Re: Pythagoras Smilin' 2012

    The Cardinals were +34 when the season was twelve games old. Given the choice between "juggernaut who's been a bit unlucky of late" and "just happened to have their best two-week stretch of the season in the first two weeks," I'm leaning toward/hoping for the latter.
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    Re: Pythagoras Smilin' 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    The Pirates are now +32. Less than 2 weeks ago, they were in the negatives.
    Which says to me they've been on a run offensively that there's absolutely no way they can continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Operator View Post
    Which says to me they've been on a run offensively that there's absolutely no way they can continue.
    Or perhaps they're peaking at the right time. Pirates had a very difficult April. Much tougher than St. Louis or Cincinnati did.

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    Re: Pythagoras Smilin' 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    Or perhaps they're peaking at the right time. Pirates had a very difficult April. Much tougher than St. Louis or Cincinnati did.
    I just don't see the depth in pitching for them to sustain this. (or hitting for that matter)

    And, they're the Pirates.
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