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    6/12/2012 Reds vs Native Americans

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    Re: 6/12/2012 Reds vs Native Americans

    Tuesday's ‪#Reds‬ Lineup vs Indians: Heisey 8, Valdez 6, Votto 3, Phillips 4, Bruce 9, Frazier 5, Ludwick 7, Hanigan 2, Cueto 1

    https://twitter.com/Reds/status/212627804599226368

    Who needs OBP in front of Votto, anyway?
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    Re: 6/12/2012 Reds vs Native Americans

    They are batting 8 lefties/switch hitters against a tough righty?

    Hey, that's not fair!

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    Re: 6/12/2012 Reds vs Native Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Plus Plus View Post
    Tuesday's ‪#Reds‬ Lineup vs Indians: Heisey 8, Valdez 6, Votto 3, Phillips 4, Bruce 9, Frazier 5, Ludwick 7, Hanigan 2, Cueto 1

    https://twitter.com/Reds/status/212627804599226368

    Who needs OBP in front of Votto, anyway?
    Maybe Votto finds runners leading off of bases distracting to his hitting process. Shouldn't have to worry about that tonight!
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    Re: 6/12/2012 Reds vs Native Americans

    Fay mentioned that 5 or 6 guys are battling flu-like symptoms. Stubbs is one of those guys, and he was at Kings Island yesterday with Ondrusek, Frazier, BP, Bruce, and someone else...Heisey?

    Wonder if those are the same guys who are sick?

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    Re: 6/12/2012 Reds vs Native Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Plus Plus View Post
    Tuesday's ‪#Reds‬ Lineup vs Indians: Heisey 8, Valdez 6, Votto 3, Phillips 4, Bruce 9, Frazier 5, Ludwick 7, Hanigan 2, Cueto 1

    https://twitter.com/Reds/status/212627804599226368

    Who needs OBP in front of Votto, anyway?
    No, bad Dusty.
    “I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”

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    Re: 6/12/2012 Reds vs Native Americans

    Dusty's lineup construction continues to be my biggest gripe about him. If you need to play Valdez, bat him 8th. How difficult is that to figure out? This "CF/SS must bat 1/2" is beyond ridiculous.

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    Re: 6/12/2012 Reds vs Native Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    Dusty's lineup construction continues to be my biggest gripe about him. If you need to play Valdez, bat him 8th. How difficult is that to figure out? This "CF/SS must bat 1/2" is beyond ridiculous.
    There aren't too many choices. Hanigan could hit near the top, although he's slid a bit lately.

    To me, without change in personnel, I'd do the following: move Phillips back to lead off. Put Frazier at cleanup, or Bruce fourth/Frazier fifth.

    This would require the Reds to buy into (for now) the idea that Frazier's success is real. I would do this. Frazier has been good enough for the middle of the order and if he slides back, then make another adjustment later.

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    Re: 6/12/2012 Reds vs Native Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    There aren't too many choices. Hanigan could hit near the top, although he's slid a bit lately.

    To me, without change in personnel, I'd do the following: move Phillips back to lead off. Put Frazier at cleanup, or Bruce fourth/Frazier fifth.

    This would require the Reds to buy into (for now) the idea that Frazier's success is real. I would do this. Frazier has been good enough for the middle of the order and if he slides back, then make another adjustment later.
    Very nice. Like Blitz said, "how difficult is that?" I don't pretend that I could be a MLB manager but I can't think of any legit reason for Valdez and his CAREER .285 OBP to bat second. He's practically a pitcher-caliber bat.
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    Re: 6/12/2012 Reds vs Native Americans

    Yikes...apparently Stubbs, Cozart, and Votto are three of the sick guys. Votto is playing though.

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    Re: 6/12/2012 Reds vs Native Americans

    Dusty has to go.
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    Re: 6/12/2012 Reds vs Native Americans

    Tempted not to even watch this game. Valdez 2nd? Come the hell on Dusty. You can't be that dumb (Valdez probably gets 4-4 now but still).

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    Re: 6/12/2012 Reds vs Native Americans

    Heisey and Valdez. The Reds' two worst hitters in tonight's lineup by OPS. Right there at the top of the batting order. The Reds' legendary slugger Bronson Arroyo has a better OBP (.238) and OPS (.449) than Valdez.

    But you know that Dusty wants to get the running game going! Those poor Indians. Their pitchers must be terrified of Valdez getting his first stolen base of the year if he somehow gets on base. And surely they know that Heisey already has one stolen base, and to think that we're not even quite two and half months into the season!

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    Re: 6/12/2012 Reds vs Native Americans

    Just be glad that Rolen isn't back yet or we'd probably be looking at Heisey, Valdez, Votto, Rolen.

    I really think Cueto is getting screwed in this batting order. Johnny is really fast and has almost no ability to get on base except as a pinch runner. Dusty should put him near the top of the order in front of Votto if he wants to be consistent.

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    Re: 6/12/2012 Reds vs Native Americans

    Choo double
    Cabrera ground out to 3rd
    Kipnis single to left, 1-0 Tribe
    Santana K's.
    Brantley grounds out to 2nd.

    1-0 to the bottom of 1.
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