Maybe the only true, cleanup hitting LF that will definitely be on the trade market. FA-to-be so no real contract concerns- all it will come down to is the talent a team is willing to give up. So...
What is the absolute best offer you would make for Carlos Quentin?
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Ludwick, Sulbaran, and Cingrani with the Pads throwing in a prospect in their 18-25 range.
The only serious offer I'd make for anyone would be Willingham. I don't think a rented, injury prone Carlos Quentin helps this team much.
For Willingham I'd offer Heisey, a bullpen arm and one of Cingrani(sp?) or Corcino.
Last edited by jhu1321; 06-18-2012 at 11:57 AM.
Heisey and a bullpen arm and not a penny more.....Chris would start right away and they would love his defense..I am not sure who they would need from our pen but I would send Sam L and not think twice. we have Bill and Nick coming back soon and I think Simon can handle the long relief role just fine.
I think it would take more than that but that is all I would be willing to give up for a rental. Heisey will flourish in that big outfield in SD.
The Twins signed Willingham to a multi year contract, I don't really expect them to cut bait on him that soon.Originally Posted by jhu1321
As of right now Quentin and DeJesus will be moved because their teams aren't going anywhere. As the deadline approaches more teams will be willing to trade players. The player I would target is Victorino, a guy who is a switch hitter, won't see a decline in D from the LF spot, and has some playoff experience.
I disagree. Quentin is a free agent next season and will want to stay healthy and produce for his next free agent signing.
Stubbs, Sulbaran, Neftali Soto.
No way am I trading Corcino and Cingrani for a rental. Nor am I trading Lutz or Hamilton.
Barring a huge trade for some stud under control, my untouchables are Hamilton, Lutz, Vidal, Stephenson, Travieso, Cingrani, Corcino, and Joseph. Unless I've forgotten someone, everyone else is fair game.
It's going to take a package of prospect I don't want the Reds to give up. I don't want to leave the system that depleted.
If Stubbs, Sulbaran, Neftali Soto got it done, I'd be all over that.
I'd be shocked if Stubbs alone wouldn't get it done.
Not suggesting they would cut bait but since they're losing I think they may be willing to trade some older guy's for a package of prospects...... especially pitchers.
I am ok with moving some prospects not named Hamilton, Corcino, Cingrani, or any of the two previous 1st round picks. But getting a guy like Quentin who in all liklihood will be a top tier FA next season will also help with rebuilding the farm. I am not exactly sure of the comp picks but I would imagine they would be rather high.
I think the Reds have a shot this season, a legit shot. If they are going to make a move I want to see it be a substantial move. I don't want to see the team hold tight or hope that guys turn it around. I want something bold and something that makes everyone else in the league turn their heads.
I'd give them 1 B level prospect, say Henry Rodriguez (who doesn't have a position in Cincy with Phillips signed). I don't think Quentin is nearly the upgrade that it seems some others do. He's maybe a 1 win upgrade over Heisey/Ludwick in my book. Maybe.
Last edited by RedsManRick; 06-18-2012 at 01:56 PM.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
What does a hot Quentin do in a 5 or 7 games playoff series?
You can no longer get a compensation pick for a player who did not spend the entire season with your team.
Well thats stupid! And it throws my theory out the window. I still would make a move on Quentin regardless of comp picks, just may not up my offer as much.
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