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    Re: July 2 International Signing Period

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    More like his BABIP is finally starting to normalize.

    He has as many walks as strikeouts, he has all season long. He didn't forget how to hit, the baseball luck Gods decided sticking him in the FSL wasn't enough, they also took luck from him.
    Only 1 strikeout in May so, yeah, he wasn't getting very hit lucky. But he seems to be hitting the ball harder.

    If you use SLG-BA for ISO (I saw three different ISO formulas )

    April - .094
    May - .055
    June - .193

    In any case, I am glad to see him rolling along again. Viva El Raton!
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    Re: July 2 International Signing Period

    So 10 days have passed and I guess we didn't have any notable signings?
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    Re: July 2 International Signing Period

    None anounced. They usually do that all at once, IIRC.
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    Re: July 2 International Signing Period

    If you're looking for an interesting 16-year-old to come into the organization, check out Alberti Chavez, currently playing for the DSL Reds/Dbacks team. The kid has been on fire for a terrible team. Born in 1995!
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    Re: July 2 International Signing Period

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    If you're looking for an interesting 16-year-old to come into the organization, check out Alberti Chavez, currently playing for the DSL Reds/Dbacks team. The kid has been on fire for a terrible team. Born in 1995!
    Twenty hits in his last eight games. That'll work. And he's a SS. (Of course, everybody's a SS at that age.)

    Meanwhile, Yonatan Suero has slowed down considerably.

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    Re: July 2 International Signing Period

    Meanwhile, Yonatan Suero has slowed down considerably.
    Pretty much coincided with the change in spelling of his first name. If you're looking for some inside scouting.
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    Re: July 2 International Signing Period

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    1. Franklin Barreto, ss/cf, Venezuela BLUE JAYS
    2. Luis Torrens, c, Venezuela (video) YANKEES
    3. Jose Mujica, rhp, Venezuela (video) RAYS
    4. Alexander Palma, of, Venezuela (video)
    5. Gustavo Cabrera, of, Dominican Republic (video) GIANTS
    6. Jose Castillo, lhp, Venezuela (video)
    7. Luiz Gohara, lhp, Brazil
    8. Carlos Belen, 3b, Dominican Republic (video) PADRES
    9. Luis Castro, ss, Venezuela BLUE JAYS
    10. Wendell Rijo, ss, Dominican Republic (video)
    11. Amed Rosario, ss, Dominican Republic (video) METS
    12. Amaurys Minier, ss, Dominican Republic (video) TWINS
    13. Richard Urena, ss, Dominican Republic (video)
    14. David Rodriguez, c, Venezuela (video)
    15. Deivi Grullon, c, Dominican Republic (video) PHILLIES
    16. Julio de la Cruz, 3b, Dominican Republic (video) PIRATES
    17. Jose Almonte, rhp, Dominican Republic RED SOX
    18. Sergio Alcantara, ss, Dominican Republic
    19. Frandy de la Rosa, ss, Dominican Republic (video) CUBS
    20. Jose Pujols, of, Dominican Republic (video) PHILLIES
    I'd take my chances with Jose Pujols. He's got the name.

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    Oh, and I see Danny Almonte's brother is available too.
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    Re: July 2 International Signing Period

    Quote Originally Posted by mace View Post
    Twenty hits in his last eight games. That'll work. And he's a SS. (Of course, everybody's a SS at that age.)

    Meanwhile, Yonatan Suero has slowed down considerably.
    It's a wonder they can actually field teams with everyone playing shortstop!
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    Re: July 2 International Signing Period

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    More like his BABIP is finally starting to normalize.

    He has as many walks as strikeouts, he has all season long. He didn't forget how to hit, the baseball luck Gods decided sticking him in the FSL wasn't enough, they also took luck from him.
    If a guy is 100% reliant on his BAPIP to the point that he OPS's .500 for two months on A ball, then that really is not a valid excuse.

    It's a sign that the guy has zero power, and zero ability to find first base without getting a hit.

    His BAPIP will get better, but I think the signs are on the wall that he doesn't have a significant number of skills at the plate that he is going to be a major asste at the plate as he moves up. It more than likely shows that last year was the fluke, not this year.

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    Re: July 2 International Signing Period

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    If a guy is 100% reliant on his BAPIP to the point that he OPS's .500 for two months on A ball, then that really is not a valid excuse.

    It's a sign that the guy has zero power, and zero ability to find first base without getting a hit.

    His BAPIP will get better, but I think the signs are on the wall that he doesn't have a significant number of skills at the plate that he is going to be a major asste at the plate as he moves up. It more than likely shows that last year was the fluke, not this year.
    Well, he isn't a guy with zero power. He is a teenager playing the Florida State League who has 14 doubles and 4 home runs. He isn't Juan Pierre.

    And doesn't just about every player rely on BABIP? If everyone posted a .200 BABIP for months at a time, everyone would look like they couldn't hit. The kid simply makes contact when he swings. He isn't going to draw walks because when he is thrown strikes, he hits them. If he turns into Juan Pierre with a little bit more power, that has some value. I think that is right up his alley.

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    Re: July 2 International Signing Period

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Well, he isn't a guy with zero power. He is a teenager playing the Florida State League who has 14 doubles and 4 home runs. He isn't Juan Pierre.
    No, Juan Pierre is a major league player.

    This guy is miles away from that.

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    Re: July 2 International Signing Period

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    No, Juan Pierre is a major league player.

    This guy is miles away from that.
    Of course he is miles away from that. That is why he is in the Florida State League and not the Majors.

    That is why I continued my thought with the paragraph that you didn't quote.

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    Re: July 2 International Signing Period

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Well, he isn't a guy with zero power. He is a teenager playing the Florida State League who has 14 doubles and 4 home runs. He isn't Juan Pierre.

    And doesn't just about every player rely on BABIP? If everyone posted a .200 BABIP for months at a time, everyone would look like they couldn't hit. The kid simply makes contact when he swings. He isn't going to draw walks because when he is thrown strikes, he hits them. If he turns into Juan Pierre with a little bit more power, that has some value. I think that is right up his alley.
    We also know that players can control their BAPIP to some extent (agreed, not to the extend of RT over 2 months).

    But when was the last time a great BAPIP guy like Votto or Holiday did that for 2 consecutive months (I hoesntly don't know). Because RT is going to need a near elite BAPIP in his career to sustain starter level offensive value due to his overall limited patience/power. I'm saying, it likely wasn't 100% luck that he was doing as poorly as he was.

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    He doesn't need to be a great BABIP guy to sustain starter level offensive value. Let's just assume his walk and strikeout rates remain exactly the same as they are right now, 7.5%. Lets just take his current rate of power numbers in the FSL and push them forward to the Majors on a rate basis. Here is the line he would put up with a 'normal' BABIP

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    PA	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	BB	K	HBP	SH	SF	AVG	OBP	SLG	BABIP
    650	586	170	30	6	9	49	49	5	5	5	.290	.347	.408	.302
    From a second baseman, that is above average offensive output.

    A whole bunch of guys go through the Florida State League who mashed before they got there and mashed after they left, but didn't mash while they were there. It happens all the time.

    Ryan Braun and Joey Votto jump immediately to mind.

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    Re: July 2 International Signing Period

    A guy whom alreayd walks pretty sparingly, and has low power is not likely to see those rates stay constant as the progress through the minor leagues and major leagues....


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