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    Women: Would You Date an Unemployed Man?

    To the women of Redszone, would you date a guy who's unemployed? Most of you probably wouldn't according to this:

    Overall, 75 percent of women said they would be unlikely to date an unemployed man, with 33 percent saying no outright. Another 42 percent of women answered maybe when asked about the possibility of dating an unemployed man. That answer, however, came with the stipulation that those women would not want to spend a lot of time in the relationship if the man did not have a plan in place. Just 21 percent of women said they would date an unemployed man.

    Women, however, insist their feelings are not solely based on money. Rather, respondents said they were interested in dating someone who is engaged in an activity. Respondents felt that work was a beneficial activity for men to participate in. …

    On the other hand, the prospect of dating an unemployed woman was not a problem for nearly two-thirds of men. In fact, 19 percent of men said they had no reservations and 46 percent of men said they were positive they would date an unemployed woman.
    http://www.livescience.com/21194-dat...men-women.html

    So what's up with that? Us men will wine and dine an unemployed gal but the ladies sure feel differently. Sounds sexist to me...


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    Re: Women: Would You Date an Unemployed Man?

    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    I ain't sayin' she's a gold digga, but she ain't messin' with no broke ____________.
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    Re: Women: Would You Date an Unemployed Man?

    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    I ain't sayin' she's a gold digga, but she ain't messin' with no broke ____________.
    Bravo.

    I think the polls show that even as we are more modernized, the traditional gender roles are still generally in place. When I take a girl out to dinner, I expect to pick up the check. I wouldn't refuse to let her pay if she offers, but asking for the check is my default position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigredmechanism View Post
    Bravo.

    I think the polls show that even as we are more modernized, the traditional gender roles are still generally in place. When I take a girl out to dinner, I expect to pick up the check. I wouldn't refuse to let her pay if she offers, but asking for the check is my default position.
    Is it really that, or is it that being unemployed is seen as a proxy for being a loser in general? Women see "unemployed" and they think of a guy who's irresponsible/selfish/flakey/etc. I'm sure some people would say that's unfair, but there's tons of men out there, and women have to narrow the field somehow. Love is war, you know.

    Of course, there's also the "Cinderella" syndrome, whereby every woman thinks they're going to get some shining prince, but eventually settle down with a normal, flawed guy once years of failure teach them they ain't exactly a princess themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpresidente View Post
    Is it really that, or is it that being unemployed is seen as a proxy for being a loser in general? Women see "unemployed" and they think of a guy who's irresponsible/selfish/flakey/etc. I'm sure some people would say that's unfair, but there's tons of men out there, and women have to narrow the field somehow. Love is war, you know.

    Of course, there's also the "Cinderella" syndrome, whereby every woman thinks they're going to get some shining prince, but eventually settle down with a normal, flawed guy once years of failure teach them they ain't exactly a princess themselves.
    I'm sure that plays a big part, but I don't see how that's so different from my point.

    I think that many women still look to get a traditional male over an unemployed stay at home dad. Nothing wrong with saying that, IMO. Just as I think that also many men are conversely willing to be with a stay at home wife in lieu of modern working female if the situation presented itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    I ain't sayin' she's a gold digga, but she ain't messin' with no broke ____________.
    Swear I thought of that as I clicked on the thread.


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    Re: Women: Would You Date an Unemployed Man?

    There are women on this board???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by tixe View Post
    There are women on this board???????
    Let's hear everyone's thoughts. Think women are materialistic?

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    Re: Women: Would You Date an Unemployed Man?

    Let's hear everyone's opinion on how stupid men can be. That seems much more pertinent to this thread if you ask me.
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    Re: Women: Would You Date an Unemployed Man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    Let's hear everyone's thoughts. Think women are materialistic?
    Speaking as a male, I don't think so. As I see it, it seems fair for women to ask that same question of men.

    Just because a man or woman does not strive to climb the corporate ladder, that does not make him/her lazy, gold digging or a non-asset.

    It's about being supportive and placing the professional goals/hopes/dreams of your significant other ahead of your own for the good of the relationship.

    Trust me, there are many women, especially dyed-in-the-wool Alpha womwn, who could care less about a man's paycheck.
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    Re: Women: Would You Date an Unemployed Man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    Let's hear everyone's thoughts. Think women are materialistic?
    I don't think "materialistic" but I think women are more social and by extension more concerned with their place in the social hierarchy. A lot of us dudes just want to say f it and do a Jeremian Johnson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    I don't think "materialistic" but I think women are more social and by extension more concerned with their place in the social hierarchy. A lot of us dudes just want to say f it and do a Jeremian Johnson.
    Men are attracted by physical appearance, and women are attracted by a guy's social standing. Jeremiah Johnson was an alpha male at some point in the past, which is why low-status betas who can't cut it in a complex modern world get nostalgic about simpler times when somebody like them could have ruled.

    As far as the whole "materialistic" thing goes, I'd say women are naturally more concerned with hearth and home, which implies a certain amount of consumer materialism. But beyond comfortable living, where wealth becomes an avenue for power and influence more than creature comforts, I see men as more materialistic. Look at the Forbes 400, it's dominated by men. Women quit working when they get that much money, and I don't think I've ever seen a woman get all wide-eyed and hyped up over her investment portfolio, the way some men do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpresidente View Post
    Men are attracted by physical appearance, and women are attracted by a guy's social standing. Jeremiah Johnson was an alpha male at some point in the past, which is why low-status betas who can't cut it in a complex modern world get nostalgic about simpler times when somebody like them could have ruled.
    Maybe. But I think there's more to it than "not cutting it". We have 100,000 years of hunting and gathering. And hunting and gathering tribes were often more egalitarian. There are many reasons why people want to drop out.

    As far as the whole "materialistic" thing goes, I'd say women are naturally more concerned with hearth and home, which implies a certain amount of consumer materialism. But beyond comfortable living, where wealth becomes an avenue for power and influence more than creature comforts, I see men as more materialistic. Look at the Forbes 400, it's dominated by men. Women quit working when they get that much money, and I don't think I've ever seen a woman get all wide-eyed and hyped up over her investment portfolio, the way some men do.
    Anthropologically, men have acquired money as a means to acquire social power and women (which in turn is social power). A man can acquire lots of money, lots of women and lots of children. There's a biological bottleneck on women's reproductive capacity. No matter how many men she get's, she's going to have the same amount of babies.
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    Re: Women: Would You Date an Unemployed Man?

    Quote Originally Posted by kpresidente View Post
    Men are attracted by physical appearance, and women are attracted by a guy's social standing. Jeremiah Johnson was an alpha male at some point in the past, which is why low-status betas who can't cut it in a complex modern world get nostalgic about simpler times when somebody like them could have ruled.
    Not sure if I'd agree with you that the story of a man abandoning society and heading into the wilderness alone qualifies as a good example of a man trying to "rule" over anyone.

    Understand my point?


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