July 6th, 2012- Reds @ Padres

[Hoosier Red]

I disagree there would ne effect from having BP 1st Frazier 2nd then Votto Ludwick and Bruce. You're replacing 2 abysmal OBP with 2 guys with decent OBPs. That alone would make a big difference.

Until you got through the next 5 batters.

Over the course of 300 PA, having Phillips and Frazier(at their current OBP) over Stubbs and Cozart(at their current OBP) would have produced roughly 25 more times on base.

Do you really think we'd notice a tremendous difference in getting an extra base runner in front of Votto every 3 games?

That's not to say it shouldn't be done, but I don't think we'd really see a noticeable difference.

[cbowen2112]

Pirates are trailing in 4th 5-3 but they are threatening with guys 1 and 3rd. Zito gets out of it nothing scoring. Bedard's already been knocked out by the Giants. Pirates pen is in the game.

I think pirates will go after a starter by the deadline. And now 5-4 after a HR by Casey McGhee

[RedlegJake]

Until you got through the next 5 batters.

Over the course of 300 PA, having Phillips and Frazier(at their current OBP) over Stubbs and Cozart(at their current OBP) would have produced roughly 25 more times on base.

Do you really think we'd notice a tremendous difference in getting an extra base runner in front of Votto every 3 games?

That's not to say it shouldn't be done, but I don't think we'd really see a noticeable difference.

I know what you're saying but I'd notice a difference darn it. Man I am SICK of seeing 2 automatic outs start every game.

[RedlegJake]

Pirates with 23 come from behind wins 2nd only to Miami this year so far (another sign things might not continue to hold so well for them). Brad Penny sighting in Giants bullpen. Giants add 1 in 7th 6-4 mid 7.

[reds44]

I do, and have a head start.

I'm passing on the game tonight in order to get bombed. Last night's game thread was a lot of fun, though.

[edabbs44]

I'm not saying there'd be no effect. I'm just saying that sufficient studies have been done to indicate that the cumulative effect of shuffling the batting order is marginal. That argument sailed ten years ago. If the Reds want to make a real difference they need to replace some of the players they are currently running out there. Anybody who thinks that the Reds are going to substantially increase the number of runs they are scoring by juggling the current players in rotation is fooling themselves.

TMBS, I'm sick of seeing Stubbs and and Cozart at the top of the lineup too...

Agree.

[RedlegJake]

Bottom on 9th 6-5 Giants.

[RedlegJake]

Cozart!

[Tom Servo]

Cozart!

[Reds Fanatic]

Leadoff homer for Cozart. 1-0 Reds.

[Degenerate39]

Should've been ball 4 luckily it wasn't because Cozart homers on the next pitch

[Tom Servo]

0-29

[RedlegJake]

0-29. 17 from the record

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs strikes out swinging. 0 for 29.

[Degenerate39]

Can Stubbs be sent to Triple A?