Penn State / Jerry Sandusky Pt. II

[cumberlandreds]

Too much at stake from their perspective I suppose. Paterno and Penn St. football ruled that university and perhaps the state in general.

That's the way I perceive it too. They certainly put football and its glory above the integrity of the university as a whole.

[Assembly Hall]

That's the way I perceive it too. They certainly put football and its glory above the integrity of the university as a whole.

I wonder how much money the football program generated for the university?

[villain612]

I read most of the Freeh Report last night. Interesting read.

http://progress.psu.edu/assets/conte...NAL_071212.pdf

The fact that Sandusky continued to have access to Penn State facilities for years after two separate incidents involving children in showers is pretty appalling. Its pretty obvious that the chain of command didn't care about the well being of the kids involved.

[cumberlandreds]

I wonder how much money the football program generated for the university?

A lot and that was the crux of the problem. They didn't want to jeopardize that money even though they knew terrible things were going on. That's the really appalling thing about all of this.

[Sea Ray]

Penn State's administration should have shut down the program. It shows what they are all about by basically doing nothing with all of that going on.

With the value of hindsight we now know why they didn't. All they had to do was weather a couple harsh years and then the NCAA would ease up on them. Now the program is pretty much back to full steam ahead

[villain612]

I disagree with people who think the program should be shut down. Penalized yes...but completely terminated?

[traderumor]

I disagree with people who think the program should be shut down. Penalized yes...but completely terminated?

Yes. They have demonstrated that it would have been best. Now, like a horror movie monster, they have remained alive after what would kill mere mortal programs and will be even more dangerous. Socialogically, there appears to be cult-like phenomenon operating here, and the NCAA is feeding the head of the monster.

[Caveat Emperor]

I disagree with people who think the program should be shut down. Penalized yes...but completely terminated?

By not shutting it down, the lesson that has been learned is that you should always attempt to cover-up wrongodings at your university if possible and look the other way as much as possible.

[Tom Servo]

At the very least they should have gotten the SMU Death Penalty.

[villain612]

Yes. They have demonstrated that it would have been best. Now, like a horror movie monster, they have remained alive after what would kill mere mortal programs and will be even more dangerous. Socialogically, there appears to be cult-like phenomenon operating here, and the NCAA is feeding the head of the monster.

Should USC's football program been shutdown over the Reggie Bush scandal?

[Dom Heffner]

Should USC's football program been shutdown over the Reggie Bush scandal?

Did Reggie Bush rape a bunch of children?

[villain612]

Did Reggie Bush rape a bunch of children?

Did the Penn State football team rape a bunch of children?

I am trying to establish the protocol and boundary of support for shutting an entire program down.

We're talking about a criminal action here. Not NCAA infractions. It's a fair question.

[Dom Heffner]

Did the Penn State football team rape a bunch of children?

I am trying to establish the protocol and boundary of support for shutting an entire program down.

We're talking about a criminal action here. Not NCAA infractions. It's a fair question.

The program allowed the behavior to flourish.

There are many things that are pretty sickening but child rape is the lowest thing on this earth, and to ignore it and sweep it under the rug because you want a shiny football program- that's death penalty if there ever were a case for the death penalty.

Joe Paterno and Happy Valley- I mean, that's a joke, right? Statues? Scholarships? We're going to let them continue on?

It's ickeyville to the max.

[villain612]

The program allowed the behavior to flourish.

There are many things that are pretty sickening but child rape is the lowest thing on this earth, and to ignore it and sweep it under the rug because you want a shiny football program- that's death penalty if there ever was a case for death penalty.

Joe Paterno and Happy Valley- I mean, that's a joke, right? Statues? Scholarships? We're going to let them continue on?

It's ickeyville to the max.

Oh it's definitely disgusting. I completely agree. Child rape is worse than murder in my opinion. (I'd rather be accused of killing someone than child rape)

Due to it's uniqueness as a case though, I don't think imposing penalties is as cut and dry as some would like it to be. I get everyone's perspective. It was a disgusting situation and punishing the football program is a logical followthrough - which I support for the most part - we just disagree on the severity of the punishment.

After reading the report in full, I can definitely say there are 2 or 3 members of the PSU administration that deserve jail time.

[dougdirt]

Did the Penn State football team rape a bunch of children?

Teams are punished all of the time for actions not involving the football players, but the administration or coaches doing something.