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Thread: Pace Clocking for Speeding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWM View Post
    I got bombarded with mail advertisements from lawyers who handle traffic citations. I called one today and as soon as I said pace clocked in Duval County by a guy on a motorcycle, the guy said said, "Ah, must have been XXXX (the officer's name)." I checked the citation and he was right. Apparently this guy is infamous for this. He told me that he gets calls from people pissed about pace clocking all the time and they are the ones who actually want to fight it most often. He told me point blank I'd lose. I'm paying him $79 to keep the points off my license.

    I've never had driving record issues until I moved to FL. It's a whole new ballgame down here.

    So, the police let the local lawyers know how got a ticket to solicit your business? Or is it a matter of public record?
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    Re: Pace Clocking for Speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    So, the police let the local lawyers know how got a ticket to solicit your business? Or is it a matter of public record?
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    They can get a copy of the ticket easy enough.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: Pace Clocking for Speeding?

    MWM... I'll chime in here, as traffic enforcement is my specialty. Pace clocking, as many have already stated, is a valid way enforcing the speed limit. Using the speedometer of the officer's vehicle is a means that this is done by, by using one fixed object to the next and looking at how fast the patrol vehicle was going to a point where they were staying in pace with the violator's vehicle (neither lagging behind, nor catching up). The only time I like this method of enforcement is when it's done from a patrol car equipped with a radar. Radars have the two modes, moving and stationary. When a radar is switched into the stationary mode, a ground speed is displayed in the target window, which should equal the speedometer speed of the police vehicle, and it's easier to articulate this, both to the violator and in court, if the officer had this available to them.

    Aerial enforcement is my specialty, as I'm a pilot for a police agency. To me, this is the absolute most accurate way of determining vehicle speeds, because you're using simple math. Yes, that's what the white marks are for on each berm of the roadway, at least here in Ohio. These are typically mile to mile and a half zones, with each section broken down into quarter mile sections of roadway, each section identified by white berm markings. The stop watches of the pilots are checked monthly against the Atomic Clock at the Naval Observatory in D.C., and daily against a comparison calibration chart.

    There's a formula that is basically an off-shoot of the time/speed/distance calculations.

    Just for conversation's sake, because I know right away that if you travel through a 1/4 mile at 11 seconds it will equal 81 MPH, I'll show how we determine the vehicle speed:

    1,320 (distance of a 1/4 mile) / 11:00 (elapsed time) = 120 Feet per second
    120 feet per second * 3,600 (seconds in an hour) = 432,000 feet per hour
    432,000 / 5,280 (obvious, LOL) = 81.818 MPH

    I love this method of checking vehicle speeds because it gives every advantage that can be given to the violator, in terms of accuracy. Even if I were to short change the violator's 1/4 mile by 13 feet, a 1% error, it would only throw the violator's speed off by less than 1 MPH. So instead of doing 81.818 MPH, they would have been doing 80.9 MPH. If they wanted to argue that they were going the posted speed limit, let's say 65 MPH, then I would had to have missed their vehicle by over 300 feet for them to have been going 65 MPH.

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