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    Re: Votto Not Playing Tonight

    Stubbs leading off. God make it stop.
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    Chapman can be downright pornographic at times.

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    Re: Votto Not Playing Tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by OldXOhio View Post
    Stubbs leading off. God make it stop.
    What? The winning?
    "In our sundown perambulations of late, through the outer parts of Brooklyn, we have observed several parties of youngsters playing 'base', a certain game of ball. Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms, the game of ball is glorious"
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    Re: Votto Not Playing Tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by OldXOhio View Post
    Stubbs leading off. God make it stop.
    Vs. a left hander.

    Why?

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    If the Reds win tonight, I'd rest him again tomorrow. Love the idea of Frazier playing 1B over Cairo, btw.
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    Re: Votto Not Playing Tonight

    Probably reading too much into it, but Frazier at first base makes me wonder if it's a way of phasing out Cairo. He's no longer needed at third. If they make a trade or two, they'll probably have to create room on the roster, and he's as likely a candidate as any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mace View Post
    Probably reading too much into it, but Frazier at first base makes me wonder if it's a way of phasing out Cairo. He's no longer needed at third. If they make a trade or two, they'll probably have to create room on the roster, and he's as likely a candidate as any.
    I think it's two separate issues.

    With Rolen back, and Frazier's numbers so good, Reds have to find ways to get Todd into the lineup. He has versatility so for this season we'll probably see him play some first, some left field, mostly third base. Next season, maybe every day at third base.

    Cairo, I think, is a different question. As you correctly said, if the Reds add players they will have to open up roster spots. Since Cairo has not had a good year, since his contract is up, since his defensive positions are covered, he's a candidate to be moved.

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    Re: Votto Not Playing Tonight

    Votto is having minor knee surgery tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Votto is having minor knee surgery tomorrow
    Even though you included the word "minor," me thinks that won't stop the sky from falling here on RZ.
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    Re: Votto Not Playing Tonight

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    Vs. a left hander.

    Why?
    Because he has no business at the top of the order. Period. I don't care if they're playing an intrasquad game.
    Originally Posted by nate
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldXOhio View Post
    Because he has no business at the top of the order. Period. I don't care if they're playing an intrasquad game.
    I've been pretty hard on Stubbs recently, as I'm personally ready to hand it over to Heisey until/unless another option comes along.

    That said, it's worth noting that Stubbs' OBP against LHP for his career is a very respectable .345.

    At that clip, it certainly justifies his batting leadoff against lefties.
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    Re: Votto Not Playing Tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by mace View Post
    Probably reading too much into it, but Frazier at first base makes me wonder if it's a way of phasing out Cairo. He's no longer needed at third. If they make a trade or two, they'll probably have to create room on the roster, and he's as likely a candidate as any.
    There could be something to that. Frazier is versatile enough to handle 1B, which allows both he and Rolen to be in the lineup atthe same time when Votto is out.

    If Ludwick returns next season, I could see the Reds working him out at 1B during Spring Training to add to the RH backup depth at 1B. Additionally, a 34-year-old power hitting OF could do worse than to add 1B to his resume.
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    Re: Votto Not Playing Tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Votto is having minor knee surgery tomorrow
    Are you serious about this? And if so, where are you getting this from?
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    Re: Votto Not Playing Tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Strikes Out Looking View Post
    Not only did he play in the AS game but he had to fly from SD to Cin then go to KC for the all-star game and then come back to Cincy. This is not a JR situation.
    Not to mention entertaining family and friends, dozens upon dozens of interviews, galas and fetes, news meets, photo opps, etc. Players who go to the AS Game come back more tired than when they went. It's pretty draining and I'll bet he was on his feet for hours at a time before and after
    the game and most of the three days. I don't care if they give him a couple days to just completely rest his knee f that's what it takes t make sure he's completely healthy for the dog days - that's when teams make it or die.

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    Are you serious about this? And if so, where are you getting this from?
    Bob Hertzel, WV times tweeted it.

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    Re: Votto Not Playing Tonight

    It was a mistake going to Kansas City.


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