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    Re: Votto expected to be out 3-4 weeks after knee surgery

    Would Beau Mills be a good call up?


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    Re: Votto expected to be out 3-4 weeks after knee surgery

    Two thoughts:

    1. I can't remember the last time someone was announced as being out "3-4 weeks" and came back in less than 6-8.

    2. Given #1, season is probably done for the Reds.
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    Re: Votto expected to be out 3-4 weeks after knee surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    Two thoughts:

    1. I can't remember the last time someone was announced as being out "3-4 weeks" and came back in less than 6-8.

    2. Given #1, season is probably done for the Reds.
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    Crudsers.....
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    Re: Votto expected to be out 3-4 weeks after knee surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    Two thoughts:

    1. I can't remember the last time someone was announced as being out "3-4 weeks" and came back in less than 6-8.

    2. Given #1, season is probably done for the Reds.
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    Re: Votto expected to be out 3-4 weeks after knee surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    Two thoughts:

    1. I can't remember the last time someone was announced as being out "3-4 weeks" and came back in less than 6-8.

    2. Given #1, season is probably done for the Reds.
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    Re: Votto expected to be out 3-4 weeks after knee surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    You're assuming they learned of the tear today. If it's a partial tear, it can be one of those things you can try to play through. Or it could've worsened after the initial injury and resulted in a tear. So no, it's not OBVIOUS about anything.
    Hence the "unless you believe Votto suffered the tear recently" part of my post. I happen to believe he suffered the tear when he slid into third base against the Giants on June 29. I would say there's about a 95 percent chance (or better) that's the case.

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    Re: Votto expected to be out 3-4 weeks after knee surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    Hilarious.
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    Crap! and here I shelled out over $1,500 on season tickets - worthless!
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    Re: Votto expected to be out 3-4 weeks after knee surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    And you have no idea at all what kind of exams, imaging or conversations went on during that time, Mr. Internet Doc. You have no idea if things got worse or better or what during that time. Do you?

    You know 2 facts, and you guessed and extrapolated all the rest. Good science there!

    I don't "believe" anything about when Votto suffered the tear in his meniscus. That's my exact point. You can't go by "belief" and what you think you know, if you really don't know.

    Why on earth do you think Kremchek "just learned of the tear" today? That's what I find comical, to be honest.
    Likewise, I find it comical that you think Votto wasn't playing with a torn meniscus the entire time. Like I said earlier in the thread (and many others have said) a torn meniscus is as minor as it gets when it comes to knee surgeries. However, the point is that it's very likely Kremchek failed in terms of finding the tear when examining Joey in LA (a few days after the injury).

    Hey, we can agree to disagree. It's all good on my end. You think it's "comical" that I think Votto in fact suffered the tear when he slid into third in San Fran. I think your stance is comical. Maybe we should do a stand-up act together.


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    Re: Votto expected to be out 3-4 weeks after knee surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    Two thoughts:

    1. I can't remember the last time someone was announced as being out "3-4 weeks" and came back in less than 6-8.

    2. Given #1, season is probably done for the Reds.
    Geovany Soto, earlier this year with a...wait for it...meniscus tear.

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    Re: Votto expected to be out 3-4 weeks after knee surgery

    For those thinking 3-4 weeks is "more like 6-8 weeks" I disagree. I think "3-4 weeks" is a conservative estimate.

    Running backs suffer torn meniscus and are back in 2 weeks. Maurice Clarett in 2002 comes to mind immediately. There's tons of NFL examples too. So, if football RBs come back on average in 2-3 weeks from the injury, I have no question a baseball first baseman can too.

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    Re: Votto expected to be out 3-4 weeks after knee surgery

    If this was a football player he would be back in 2-3 weeks given the knowledge we have of the situation. Didn't one of the UC post guys play basketball 7 days post surgery a few years back?

    My guess is that he is back in the first week of August.
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    Re: Votto expected to be out 3-4 weeks after knee surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    Everyone is (falsely) assuming the only option is that it took 18 days to find out.

    As Nate said, has anyone else considered that perhaps they knew about it shortly after the injury and decided to let it play out and see if he could play with the injury? It wouldn't be the first time an athlete has elected to play with a torn meniscus, to my knowledge.
    If this is the case then it's a failure on everyone (Votto included) for not taking advantage of the 4-day break during the All Star week and resting the knee.

    So either way, there is some fault.

    If the excuse is they just found out it was damaged, I'm sorry there is no excuse to be just finding that out with the money they have invested in him. If they already knew from the week it happened, he should have been resting last week.


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