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    The Trout/Harper debate

    OK I confess, I'm fully on the Trout bandwagon. Make no mistake, I think Harper is going to be a star. What he's doing, at least for his age, is impressive. However, right now he's an .800 OPS bat which relative to the league, is still a long way from being 'the man.'

    Trout, meanwhile, just one year older is knocking on the door of a 1.000 OPS. Yes, I realize he struggled last year in minimal action. Nonetheless, he's tearing the cover off the ball.

    Through tonight...

    Player (BA-HR-RBI-SB-OBP-SLG-OPS)

    Trout (.355-13-44-30-.408-.582-.990)
    Harper (.275-8-26-11-.347-.457-.804)

    I'm gonna stick to my guns on this. Given the speed and defense, I think Trout is going to be winning this comparison a lot more often than people have been assuming.
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    Re: The Trout/Harper debate

    I am still taking Harper in the long run. Both are incredibly to watch though. I love it.

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    Re: The Trout/Harper debate

    I'll take Trout. Harper is flashy and he is good but Trout is just incredible. I love the way both of them pay the game, though. Full tilt and they act like they respect who has gone before, too.

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    Re: The Trout/Harper debate

    I'll take Trout.

    I just have a feeling Harper's career won't last long. Not sure why. Just a hunch. Plus, he is kind of annoying. Incredibly special, but annoying.

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    Re: The Trout/Harper debate

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I am still taking Harper in the long run. Both are incredibly to watch though. I love it.
    We can make this like the East Coast-West Coast Rap feud lol
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    Re: The Trout/Harper debate

    I've seen more Trout than Harper, I'm impressed with Trout, but Harper is a LH hitter and in the long run that will help a guy.

    But man I like to watch Mike Trout play baseball.

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    Re: The Trout/Harper debate

    Choosing between Trout and Harper is kind of like choosing between Mickey Mantle and Hank Aaron.

    Mike Trout will be more of an all-around player with better defense, more speed and more contact hitting -- more like Mickey Mantle.

    Bryce Harper will be a true slugger but will still be a complete player too -- more like young Hank Aaron.

    To compare them to Reds history I would expect Mike Trout to be similar to Eric Davis or Joe Morgan. Bryce Harper will be more like Tony Perez or Ted Kluszewski.

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    Re: The Trout/Harper debate

    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicDumpling View Post
    Choosing between Trout and Harper is kind of like choosing between Mickey Mantle and Hank Aaron.

    Mike Trout will be more of an all-around player with better defense, more speed and more contact hitting -- more like Mickey Mantle.
    I agree. Just told my son the other day that Trout reminded me of "Mickey Mantle." With that said, those are some big shoes to fill.
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    Re: The Trout/Harper debate

    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY View Post
    I agree. Just told my son the other day that Trout reminded me of "Mickey Mantle." With that said, those are some big shoes to fill.
    Yep, and hopefully Trout's knees last longer than Mantle's did.

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    Re: The Trout/Harper debate

    The comparison isn't perfect at all, but I kind of feel like Harper = Griffey, Trout = ARod. Trout is the more complete player, but I doubt he'll ever get the pub of Harper.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: The Trout/Harper debate

    I like Atomic Dumpling's comparison much better. Arod isn't even an outfielder.
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    Re: The Trout/Harper debate

    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicDumpling View Post
    Yep, and hopefully Trout's knees last longer than Mantle's did.
    Me too!
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    Re: The Trout/Harper debate

    Trout was result of a compensation pick for the Angels losing Mark Texeira to the Yankees. That's some comp pick and great immediate return for a guy drafted only 3 yrs ago

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    Re: The Trout/Harper debate

    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicDumpling View Post
    Yep, and hopefully Trout's knees last longer than Mantle's did.
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    Re: The Trout/Harper debate

    One thing you're all forgetting is Harper is 19. During Trout's 19 year old season he basically flunked out and got sent back down to the minors. Edge, Harper.

    Now do I think that Harper hits .340 next year and steals around 40 or 50 like Trout will? No way. But he might hit 30 and steal 20. They're different kind of players. They're both true 'generational' talents. Prospects that come along ONCE every thirty years and they've both arrived at the same time. This isn't Bruce or Heyward or Stanton level prospects. These guys are above that pedigree even.
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