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    Re: 7/18/2012 Reds vs Vipers

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    The dark holes are the real problem is all I'm saying.
    Totally agree.
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    Re: 7/18/2012 Reds vs Vipers

    Didn't see the game, but some very good commentary on the offense in this game thread. I hope the FO is attuned to these concerns as are some of the posters in this thread.

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    Re: 7/18/2012 Reds vs Vipers

    Get ready for tommorow's lineup that will look something like this possibly...

    Stubbs
    Cozart(possibly Valdez)
    Phillips
    Bruce
    Ludwick
    Frazier
    Cairo
    Mesoraco
    Leake


    Yilkes...

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    Re: 7/18/2012 Reds vs Vipers

    Quote Originally Posted by cbowen2112 View Post
    Get ready for tommorow's lineup that will look something like this possibly...

    Stubbs
    Cozart(possibly Valdez)
    Phillips
    Bruce
    Ludwick
    Frazier
    Cairo
    Mesoraco
    Leake


    Yilkes...
    Really no worse than the lineup tonight. And at this point I'll take a few starts from Valdez over Cozart. He's been overly hacktastic lately. Wouldn't be too suprised to see Heisey in RF either with a lefty going (and I would approve).
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    Re: 7/18/2012 Reds vs Vipers

    Sean Casey is on the way!!!

    Not really.

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    Re: 7/18/2012 Reds vs Vipers

    8 runs in 3 games without Votto. This team is in big time trouble.
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    Re: 7/18/2012 Reds vs Vipers

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Stubbs .222/.293/.367
    Cozart .240/.287/.369
    Bruce .244/.319/.491
    Ludwick .238/.310/.498
    Rolen .199/.267/.308

    How can you win with this? Votto covered up a lot of problems. Now that he's gone surely they take notice. In my 50 years of following the Reds I cannot remember over half the lineup being this pitiful at the plate. Even in 1982, every starting Red had an OBP of over .300 except Paul Householder.
    The Reds this year without Votto have a very weak lineup. However, it is not nearly as bad as what the 1982 Reds put out everyday. Not even close.

    Bruce, Frazier and Ludwick are better than anyone in that 1982 lineup, except for maybe Dan Driessen. Basically, Dan Driessen was their Joey Votto. The Reds were dead last in scoring, averaging 3.36 runs a game. That was easily the worst offensive team I have ever seen. I do understand the need to block out all memories of that 1982 season, so I'll forgive you for not remembering it clearly
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    Re: 7/18/2012 Reds vs Vipers

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    8 runs in 3 games without Votto. This team is in big time trouble.
    If the Reds can play .500 for the next 4 weeks without Votto, I'll be very happy. They might have the pitching to do it. Maybe.
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    Re: 7/18/2012 Reds vs Vipers

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    The Reds this year without Votto have a very weak lineup. However, it is not nearly as bad as what the 1982 Reds put out everyday. Not even close.

    Bruce, Frazier and Ludwick are better than anyone in that 1982 lineup, except for maybe Dan Driessen. Basically, Dan Driessen was their Joey Votto. The Reds were dead last in scoring, averaging 3.36 runs a game. That was easily the worst offensive team I have ever seen. I do understand the need to block out all memories of that 1982 season, so I'll forgive you for not remembering it clearly
    I was going to piont out that 1982 and 83 Reds team. They were pathetic. This team is a hitting machine compared to them.
    Fay mentioned in his game notes that Valdez and Cairo will probably start todays game. Leake better pitch a shutout because if they score more than one run it will be a near miracle.
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